foto_fool
Well-known
I have a 30-something friend who is a very successful graphic designer. She wants a Holga AND a ZI. Something about the Holga shortcomings forcing her to make better composition, or maybe art... She seems to understand the cult of Lomo (though she won't buy one) where I do not.
- John
- John
principe azul
Ian
This does mean I've shot twenty rolls in it I haven't developed yet, putting my blind trust in the rangefinder.
Anyway, all the focus checks have turned out fine. Just need to do my J-3s and recheck my J-9 now. I've done checks before, but never take notes and so promptly forget what I was testing for. It does mean that - when I get round to developing - I'll sometimes come across a series of six near-identical shots of an empty sitting-room and wonder why...
principe azul
Ian
foto_fool said:
It's a tricky one. While I understand her argument, and buy into it myself to an extent, the flip side is that anything soft-focus (or b/w, grainy, randomly tilted, super-saturated, ultrawide etc.) can strike many people as artistic or impressive in itself, regardless of subject or composition.
Finder
Veteran
principe azul said:
Same can be said for sharp, grainless, level, etc.
EcoLeica
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Love them or hate them, you cant deny that lomographers are helping to keep the film market going, especially the c-41 processing as i have seen few that work in black and white (unlike the majority of us).
By the way someone on youtube has posted the whole lomo doco in 7 parts (i think). It is somewhat interesting and talks about how Putin saved the day
By the way someone on youtube has posted the whole lomo doco in 7 parts (i think). It is somewhat interesting and talks about how Putin saved the day
EcoLeica
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Love them or hate them, you cant deny that lomographers are helping to keep the film market going, especially the c-41 processing as i have seen few that work in black and white (unlike the majority of us).
By the way someone on youtube has posted the whole lomo doco in 7 parts (i think). It is somewhat interesting and talks about how Putin saved the day
By the way someone on youtube has posted the whole lomo doco in 7 parts (i think). It is somewhat interesting and talks about how Putin saved the day
amateriat
We're all light!
The whole Lomo thing/schtick (depending on your POV) is interesting, but when I want to shoot with a "simple, cheap" camera, I prefer to whip out this:
Which gives me an idea:
- Find a way to engineer a corporate divorce of Konica from Minolta. (Hey, it worked for DaimlerChrysler, the dissolution of yet another match made in Hell.)
- Find a way to put the Konica POP back into production, with an even-wider array of colors than the original like had (Konica had the idea way before Apple did...good idea, bad timing).
- Find a clever/silly/catchy tie-in, perhaps with an edgy celebrity or two. (Was about to nominate Sarah Silverman, but she's a bit too edgy, perhaps.)
Just think: in a proper universe, if Konica's timing had lined up with their ideas, POPography (hmm...better buy that domain name right now...) would flourish, and we'd all be awaiting confirmation on that rumored 11mp, full-frame Hexar RFd body (code-named "Mayberry"....get it?)
(Yes, I really am in a legal state of mind at the moment...)
- Barrett
Which gives me an idea:
- Find a way to engineer a corporate divorce of Konica from Minolta. (Hey, it worked for DaimlerChrysler, the dissolution of yet another match made in Hell.)
- Find a way to put the Konica POP back into production, with an even-wider array of colors than the original like had (Konica had the idea way before Apple did...good idea, bad timing).
- Find a clever/silly/catchy tie-in, perhaps with an edgy celebrity or two. (Was about to nominate Sarah Silverman, but she's a bit too edgy, perhaps.)
Just think: in a proper universe, if Konica's timing had lined up with their ideas, POPography (hmm...better buy that domain name right now...) would flourish, and we'd all be awaiting confirmation on that rumored 11mp, full-frame Hexar RFd body (code-named "Mayberry"....get it?)
(Yes, I really am in a legal state of mind at the moment...)
- Barrett
mac_wt
Cameras are like bunnies
There's a Belgian photography forum that I visit often for fun; mainly their section on people photography. It's like a competition for the cleanest, most plasticy photo of a 'beautiful' girl. The comments that you can read most often are: 'her right eye is a bit too dark/not sharp enough', 'shame you cut off the top of her hair', 'shame about the stretched fingers', 'I see some impurities on her skin, you should clone them out',...
Compared to this, I find the attitude of the lomographers very refreshing. And I agree, that for 350 $ I would rather own a Leica than an LCA, but if we succeeded in hyping the Leica brand to the same height as the Lomography brand, even a common Leica IIIb would probably be worth several times that much.
Wim
Compared to this, I find the attitude of the lomographers very refreshing. And I agree, that for 350 $ I would rather own a Leica than an LCA, but if we succeeded in hyping the Leica brand to the same height as the Lomography brand, even a common Leica IIIb would probably be worth several times that much.
Wim
Olsen
Well-known
Jocko said:I'm afraid it is, within limits. A few years ago the BBC ran a wildly uncritical documentary about lomographics. The latter had actually filmed their interview with Putin and it was shown in part.
From what I recall (I was busy pointing at the screen and ranting for much of the programme) , the Lomographics founders depicted themselves as just a freewheelin' band o' karefree krazy kids from a Scooby Doo cartoon. Putin appeared to know nothing whatsoever about the camera and to care even less, but jerked into the brief enthusiasm that gets visitors out of a politician's office. I believe they got some sort of discount on export taxes, or something similar.
I too remember when the Lomo was £20.00 new (I seem to recall that they were £19.70 from good old Global Cameras of Harrow, "specialists in Soviet equipment since 1961") . In 86-87 Amateur Photographer were inexplicably keen on them. I borrowed a Lomo on the strength of such an article and was deeply unimpressed. The subsequent hype has only made things worse
For my money, the real unsung gem amongst Soviet compacts is the FED 50!
Cheers, Ian
While I previously had great respect for BBC I don't have anhymore (Iraq, Afganistan, Northern Ireland etc. etc.) Generally speaking, they are flock of liers. And this story, I still believe, is only party true. If at all.
To export anything out of Russia you need an export licence and you have to pay a hefty export fee/tariff. If you can get an export licence of, say crude oil, and get off with a low export tariff you will end up owning british football club. There is no way that Vladimir Putin, in capacity of deputy governor of St.Petersburg could have granted anyone such privileges. Sorry, BBC, but this is bull. If Putin tells you so on TV is he bragging. At best, he could send a christmass card to the officials with this power, in Moscow.
At that time, late 90', the oligarchs were flocking around president Yeltsin at his tennis court trying to get his signature for export licenses for just anything from precious metals, oil, timber, machinery, weapons etc. etc. The handing down of that sort of privileges sat that high. Most likely the lack of business potential of the LOMO cameras - compared to shiploads of nickel, uranium, oil and timber, such a desicion would have been made at a lower level. Still that would be guys at departments in Moscow, corrupt officials very consious of their power. Having the deputy governor of a city deciding import tariffs of cameras would be as if a 'deputy major of Manchester' would decide that britain should pull out of Iraq. (- Which would be fine.).
Vladimir Putin is a very powerful man today. Back then he was a 'survivor' in a environment where all his political rivals were shot in doorways. He was keeping his head down. I regard him as a 'compromise candidate' between strong forces in Russia; the military, the oligachs and the secret services. A destiny he shares with Gordon Brown..? Vladimir Putin has managed to stand up to the powerful oligarchs - gangsters really, and have the most notorious put in jail. The rest of them are living happily in britain. Here they are portrayed as good citizens while Vladimir Putin as a murder. Which he is, ofcause. Just like the war criminals Gordon Brown and Tony Blair.
I think BBC is gravely underestimating and misunderstanding the structure of decision processes of Russia. Or trying to willify people. Russia is quite similar to the Britian in many ways. Unfortunately.
Further; I would guess that the reason for that the LOMO camera is made in China today is due to that the russian export licence fee & tariff is all to high and making this camera rediculously expensive to have them made in Russia and exported from there. Just like russian cars, that is far better than their reputation today.
Andrew Sowerby
Well-known
"It's not the band I hate, it's their fans" sums up my feelings on the Lomo LC-A. I've enjoyed using the camera for the past few years but the Lomography marketing is pretty irritating.
Kudos to anyone who can identify the lyric (without Google!).
Kudos to anyone who can identify the lyric (without Google!).
Olsen
Well-known
Andrew Sowerby said:
Ha, ha! Generally, I think it is a good thing that people 'take pictures'. Regardless. Then they also tend to have a growing interest in 'photography'.
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
I don't think I'll ever pick up a Holga, I'd rather pick up a Bessa RF and take a 6x9 negative pictures of the Rockies. But I'd support them as long as they make 120 format film more available, accessible, and affordable.
Andrew Sowerby
Well-known
Olsen said:
Oh, I agree. Encouraging people not to be intimidated by photography and to get out and take pictures is wonderful. I even agree with some of the "10 Golden Rules."* It's the silly writing on lomography.com and high prices that annoy me. The solution? I don't avoid their website nor do I buy cameras from them.
*The Rules (the ones I like are in bold):
1. Take your LOMO everywhere you go and whenever you go.
2. Use it any time - day or night.
3. Lomography is not an interference in your life, but a part of it.
4. Shoot from the hip.
5. Approach the objects of your lomographic desire as close as possible.
6. Don't think.
7. Be fast.
8. You don't have to know beforehand what you've captured on film.
9. You don't have to know afterwards, either.
10. Don't worry about the rules.
JoeV
Thin Air, Bright Sun
Lomo Fondlers?
Lomo Fondlers?
I've never owned or used a Lomo, but I've owned and used a number of crappy point-n-shoot film cameras. My favorites are the 110 format 'keychain' cameras, because they don't pretend to be anything more than what they are, plus they're almost Minox-small.
What I find amusing is the criticism here on RFF about a peculiar cult following for a specific camera type. Not that anyone here has ever been acucsed of fondling another particalur type of camera!
The good thing is that people are using those (Lomo) cameras to shoot film, and being creative in the process. That's about all we can ask of them. And in the process, perhaps film will still be around for us to, occasionally, put through our rangefinders.
Lomo Fondlers?
I've never owned or used a Lomo, but I've owned and used a number of crappy point-n-shoot film cameras. My favorites are the 110 format 'keychain' cameras, because they don't pretend to be anything more than what they are, plus they're almost Minox-small.
What I find amusing is the criticism here on RFF about a peculiar cult following for a specific camera type. Not that anyone here has ever been acucsed of fondling another particalur type of camera!
The good thing is that people are using those (Lomo) cameras to shoot film, and being creative in the process. That's about all we can ask of them. And in the process, perhaps film will still be around for us to, occasionally, put through our rangefinders.