Bessa Voightlander - What A Surprise !

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Today I sat for a cup of coffe with Mike Goldberg, a RFF member not particularly active for some long time.

He showed me his Bessa R which has a Jupiter-8 mounted on it. This was the first time I could actually see touch and hear a Bessa. What a surprise I got !

In fact I got several surprises. In the measure the following features apply to the other models that followed the Bessa R, be my coments extended to them too.

First of all, the camera looks very nicely countured. It happens, and it happened to me before, that you can see as many pics of a camera as you want, but the "real" one looks much beautifull than the one in the photos. The Bessa R looked quite smaller than what I imagined, slimmer and very very elegant.

So what do you do ? You look trough the viewfinder and hear the shutter.

The shutter seemed to me much more acceptable than what I imagined beforehand. Yet it was in a noisy coffee shop, so I cannot be more specific. Worse, Mike doesn't like leather cases and likes his cameras nude, unlike me. With a propper case the shutter noisy is supposed to be reduced.

The viewfinder striked me by two higly impressive features. The overal image is.... first class ? I don't know what adjective will be more appropriate but is dramatically clear and contrasty.

Here it will be of high interest to know if there is any Bessa with built in diopters, since when I looked through my glasses into the viewfinder, the high contrast went to the trash basket.

Perhaps it may be of interest to us, eye glass wearers, to know which kind of glasses should we look after when we go to the optometrician.

The second feature that I was positively surprised by was the frame lines for the 90mm focal length. It is much bigger than what I imagined it to be. It is good enough for everyone.

Yet one feature jumped immediately to my eyes, and not in the positive field: the patch. It is highly good and contrasty for most of the cases, but it could be better if instead of being of a clear cream/white/neutral tone it would be done in a dark yellow or any other no neutral color tone.

Why? When I pointed the camera to relatively bright light toned walls I felt a sense of "where am I ?" in terms of where to turn the focusing. This is the classic feeling Kiev users know when the two images to be superimposed are too far one from the other that you feel a bit lost.

It seems to me that in the case of the Bessa R the light tone of the patch becomes mixed with subjects of the same tone, and hence the confusion. But at the same time, let's not take this out of context. For all other situations its contrast and the second image contrast are both great great.

Finally, that small rewind crank is a cutty. The design of the shutter button is nothing less than highly good, although it could not hurt if the whole compound of shutter button and shied would both be bigger.

So far for the Bessa R. What a difference between seeing pictures and actually looking at a real one !

Cheers,
Ruben
 
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I have a bessa r with a jupiter 8 that works well, but I haven't used it in a long time (I'm on an early model autofocus f2.8 kick - pentax pc35af is the latest acquisition).

Heres a picture taken with the combo.

I find that if I am not perfectly centered with my eye, I lose the rangefinder patch. I find that a bit annoying if I want to take a picture very quickly. Also, my rangefinder patch is just a *hair* off vertically, which is also annoying enough for me to grab another camera instead. Im thinking of selling the R, unless someone can fix the vertical alignment problem inexpensively.

Overall, though, I like the meter, I like the shutter, and it feels great in the hand. Nice camera.
 
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"Perhaps it may be of interest to us, eye glass wearers, to know which kind of glasses should we look after when we go to the optometrician."

If you have a high refractive index, do not get polished edges on the lenses. They will refract alot of light into your field of view and reduce contrast. I couldn't tell from your avatar if your lens edges are polished or not, but you do seem to be very nearsighted.

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Thanks Richard, I did look into in online, but I couldn't get one of the screws under the hotshoe loose that I needed to get in there. I didn't want to strip it, so I left it.

The bessa is my most expensive camera, so I really don't want to muck things up.
 
Hi all... Mike here.
I want to share a couple of comments that arose out of discussion yesterday morning with Ruben, over several delicious cappuccino coffees.

- This is from Stephen's site: The top plate on the R2 was beefed up and is thicker than that of the Bessa R. Tho' I might put an auxiliary VF in the shoe, as for the 25/4 lens, I would not mount any flash in the shoe. If I ever needed flash, it would be via a side bracket attached to the tripod thread.

- As for the Rewind lever, there were lots of posts here about taking it easy when advancing. Further, if you've reached the 36th frame, and the lever hangs up in mid-stroke, one simply presses the rewind button to release it. And, I trained myself to remember, that this body was not my Leica M2, whose rewind lever I rammed home some 10-20,000 times. With conscious winding, I never had a problem with the Bessa R's film advance.

- Regarding the RF patch: I recognize that some users like a yellow patch. Again, having used the M2 for a lot of years, I found the Bessa R clear patch quite bright, and very easy to focus.

Finally, with the "digi bug" having bitten over a year ago, there are two much loved RF's that are not for sale: These are my Oly 35 RC, whose patch was modified by Ruben for easier focusing. And of course, the Bessa R; see Thumbnail.

Ciao, Mike
 

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Reuben,
The diopter lenses that fit on early model Nikon SLR's (like my Nikkormat FTn) are a straight fit on the Bessa. It may be that Stephen Gandy now has some "official" lenses but the ones I bought from Mainline Photographic (Voigtlander agents in Oz) here in Sydney solved the problem for me.
 
I like the R's design. And so the R2 was great choice as I have the same design with a metal camera now.
The R is plasticky but light. The R + 35mm/f 2.5 is a great combination for walking around all day.
It develops its quirks. Pushing the rewind knob back after opening is getting hard with the time and once thze rewind button did not go up after cocking the shutter.
Remedy was easy just had to look nunder the bottom plate.
the disappearance of the patch can be irritating sometimes......
 
I have the R, R2 and R2a and use diopters on each of them. I prefer the Bessas to my Leicas most of the time because the Bessas are lighter and have brighter finders, IHMO. Great cameras.
 
I've had the R for years now and just got the R3m. I love both. Them and my Konica auto S2 get the most use as far as film goes. Only problem I ever had was first roll of 36 put in R hung up and I broke film in half trying to rewind. The lever held up. I too dont like the patch and I think this is a eye problem as some use it well ad others dont. Takes me longer to focus with it verses Konicas patch. Actually bought the R at same time as a Lieca CL. Sold the CL a year later didnt use it R was better. I believe that if those who never tried one did they would feel as you do Ruben.
 
I love my Bessa R3A - beautiful camera indeed. Luckily I haven't caught Leica bug, they simply do not turn me on at all. Good, more money for other stuff. If I ever was to upgrade from Bessa I'd go for Zeiss Ikon, not Leica
 
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