Jeff Fillmore
Member
I am currently waiting on delivery of my Nikon FE and shopping for a Zeizz Ikon, and trying to decide how to get what I want from 35mm at the end of the process- which is a good quality digital image which carries through the interesting feel and unique characteristics of film. I am still a bit undecided between using a lab for processing and self developing the film- but assuming I do this myself as I am leaning- are there some decent film scanners in the $250 range? I was looking at the Plustek Opticfilm 7300 since it seems to be about the low price point for units that scan at 7200 dpi but I really don’t know much about the process. Important to me would be the range and quality of the final image- I am not so concerned about the speed of a single scan or running hundreds of scans through it.
Should I but new- or maybe look for something better used/refurbished that would be better for the same price?
Thoughts? Comments? Examples? Any input would be appreciated.
Should I but new- or maybe look for something better used/refurbished that would be better for the same price?
Thoughts? Comments? Examples? Any input would be appreciated.
gerbilthemistake
Well-known
i got a minolta dimage dual scan IV off KEH for $250, i have been really happy with it's performance using Vuescan. It wasn't new but was in the original box and all. I would recommend that scanner.
bmattock
Veteran
Seconded on the SD IV.
cjm
Well-known
I can tell you that I am very happy with my 7300 for posting scanned B&W negatives on the internet. But, I've never tried printing from those scans so I can't say one way or the other in terms of print quality. Also, I've never been able to get a satisfactory color scan from the 7300. The colors are never as vibrant and true as when they are scanned at a good photo lab.
If your looking for really nice color scans for archiving or printing, I would skip the 7300 and go for a good Nikon scanner when you can afford it. For B&W negatives, the 7300 is probably good enough. All my recent B&W stuff on Flickr is scanned with the 7300 if you want to have a look.
If your looking for really nice color scans for archiving or printing, I would skip the 7300 and go for a good Nikon scanner when you can afford it. For B&W negatives, the 7300 is probably good enough. All my recent B&W stuff on Flickr is scanned with the 7300 if you want to have a look.
dazedgonebye
Veteran
Epson refurbs have been good to me in the past. Good prices and shipping included.
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=63076139
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=63076139
bmattock
Veteran
Epson refurbs have been good to me in the past. Good prices and shipping included.
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=63076139
I also prefer Epson (I also bought refurbs) for flat-bed scanners, but I use mine for negs bigger than 35mm. I do find the SD IV to do a better job on 35mm negs. However, you can buy a lot of Epson scanner for $250.
gerbilthemistake
Well-known
Not trying to take over OP's thread, but are the scans from the v500 or v700 good enough to make prints? Always been curious about the performance of flatbeds.
Epson refurbs have been good to me in the past. Good prices and shipping included.
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=63076139
venchka
Veteran
How large a print?
I print 8x10 from Epson 1680 and 4990. I'm about to send a file off for a 16x20.
$250: Used Epson 4990.
I print 8x10 from Epson 1680 and 4990. I'm about to send a file off for a 16x20.
$250: Used Epson 4990.
bmattock
Veteran
Not trying to take over OP's thread, but are the scans from the v500 or v700 good enough to make prints? Always been curious about the performance of flatbeds.
It depends entirely on how you frame the question.
Good enough to make prints? Yes.
Good enough to make post-sized prints from 110 negatives? Perhaps not.
I have used my Epson 4490 (indeed, my old Epson 2400 too) to make huge prints - from medium format negs. If I had wanted to make 4x6 prints, I am sure I could have done so with scanned 35mm negs.
I have found that the flatbeds do not have the ability to penetrate very dense negatives that a dedicated scanner does.
When in doubt - dedicated scanners (35mm and medium format) always work best. Second choice is flatbed scanners. However, the difference between them is not monstrous, and is generally down to budget and expected size of prints to be made. Spend more, get more.
Mudman
Well-known
I've made 16x20 from 35mm negs and the Epson V500 as well as the Epson 4990. Beautiful job from both.
gerbilthemistake
Well-known
That's good to know, I am glad that it seems like flatbeds have improved significantly. The only experience i've had with them is my friends old flatbed scanner with a cheaply made 35mm insert, that did a not so good job.
dazedgonebye
Veteran
Not trying to take over OP's thread, but are the scans from the v500 or v700 good enough to make prints? Always been curious about the performance of flatbeds.
A decent 35mm negative gives me an 11x14 print I like. YMMV.
Certainly working with medium format and above, there is more than enough to work with.
I don't doubt that a dedicated 35mm scanner will give better results (I take the word of others on that).
david.elliott
Well-known
I routinely make 8x10 prints from my epson v500. I think they look great.
I do have the betterscanning holders though, which help -a lot-.
If you want, pm me and I can send you a full size jpeg or tiff scan that you can print from and judge for yourself.
At any rate, I can recommend an epson v500 with betterscanning holders. Never used anything else since I"m perfectly satisfied with my setup.
I do have the betterscanning holders though, which help -a lot-.
If you want, pm me and I can send you a full size jpeg or tiff scan that you can print from and judge for yourself.
At any rate, I can recommend an epson v500 with betterscanning holders. Never used anything else since I"m perfectly satisfied with my setup.
amateriat
We're all light!
I'll "third" the Minolta DS IV. Excellent bang-for-the-buck. Some flatbeds can, with care, do a decent job, but with a good dedicated film scanner there are no ifs, ands or buts.
- Barrett
- Barrett
Gradskater
Well-known
I have a plustek 7300 that I like. Color is more difficult, but not impossible. It just takes some time fiddling with the different controls. Here are a few scanned with the 7300 that have some nice color in them.
If you get really bored, you can sort through a bunch of pictures scanned with the 7300 here.



If you get really bored, you can sort through a bunch of pictures scanned with the 7300 here.
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bmattock
Veteran
Those look really nice! I'd love to try the Plustek scanners at some point, but since I run Linux, there is no driver for them (I also run Vuescan). And I won't run WINE, the whole point of Linux is to NOT run Windows products. So until Plustek supports Linux...meh.
Bob Michaels
nobody special
I'll "third" the Minolta DS IV. Excellent bang-for-the-buck. Some flatbeds can, with care, do a decent job, but with a good dedicated film scanner there are no ifs, ands or buts.
- Barrett
I used a Scan Dual II for a number of years and never believed that any scanner did a better job. I sold it for $125 (that was the market) when I got the MultiPro as I simply did not need two scanners. I tried rescanning some negs with the newer scanner but just could not see any difference in the prints.
There just has not been significant improvements in film scanners in recent years. Some of the consumer flatbeds have improved but I believe even the latest consumer flatbeds still trail the early film scanners in quality. (When I say "consumer flatbeds" I mean anything made by Epson or anyone else under the $8,000 price range)
So I suggest buying an older film scanner, either Minolta or Nikon for the best within your budget.
chris00nj
Young Luddite
The Epson V500 is a quality scanner for $200. It also comes with Acrobe Photoshop Elements.
david.elliott
Well-known
V500 scan links sent to those of you who pmed me requesting them.
freax
Established
Hi.
You can read a lot of reviews here (http://www.filmscanner.info/en/FilmscannerTestberichte.html).
For that price they recommend http://www.filmscanner.info/en/ReflectaCrystalScan7200.html with SilverFast SE software.
They are marketed in US with other names too.
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You can read a lot of reviews here (http://www.filmscanner.info/en/FilmscannerTestberichte.html).
For that price they recommend http://www.filmscanner.info/en/ReflectaCrystalScan7200.html with SilverFast SE software.
They are marketed in US with other names too.
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