ali_baba
Well-known
Topic says it all.
I wanted to spring for a Metz 54 mz-4i but the
reviews I have found are mixed.
It seems that the leica sf24D is more lauded?
I'm generally going to use it for stage shooting with 35-90 lenses on the m8.
thanks!
I wanted to spring for a Metz 54 mz-4i but the
reviews I have found are mixed.
It seems that the leica sf24D is more lauded?
I'm generally going to use it for stage shooting with 35-90 lenses on the m8.
thanks!
ali_baba
Well-known
nobody knows?
Photon42
burn the box
Of course we know 
It's all there already. Lot's of forum members think, flash is close to a sacrileg on a rangefinder body, so you collect much more replies when asking for opinions on a high speed lens. Personally I think a flash has it's uses, especially if used properly.
For the m8, I'd skip any idea with TTL and the Metz 54. Doesn't work reliably here. More importantly, pre-flash is evil in real live shooting and unneccessary in still photography. Really.
My recommendation for M-Flashes (admittedly a vee bit Nikon-leaning)
SB-22(s) (for it's size), three f-stops, if you're willing to take the "motor" stop, AA battery form factor. US$ 20-30 used
SB-27 (for the best compromise), five or maybe six f-stops, beam splitting (really works to some extend), AA battery form factor. US$ 50 used
SB-26, SB-800, MZ54i (for the best features), all possible f-stops, slave mode - forget the Metz in dedicated TTL mode. US$ 100 used and up , much more for models still in production
I've got a SB-22, 24, 27 and a MZ54i.
Rgds
Ivo
It's all there already. Lot's of forum members think, flash is close to a sacrileg on a rangefinder body, so you collect much more replies when asking for opinions on a high speed lens. Personally I think a flash has it's uses, especially if used properly.For the m8, I'd skip any idea with TTL and the Metz 54. Doesn't work reliably here. More importantly, pre-flash is evil in real live shooting and unneccessary in still photography. Really.
My recommendation for M-Flashes (admittedly a vee bit Nikon-leaning)
SB-22(s) (for it's size), three f-stops, if you're willing to take the "motor" stop, AA battery form factor. US$ 20-30 used
SB-27 (for the best compromise), five or maybe six f-stops, beam splitting (really works to some extend), AA battery form factor. US$ 50 used
SB-26, SB-800, MZ54i (for the best features), all possible f-stops, slave mode - forget the Metz in dedicated TTL mode. US$ 100 used and up , much more for models still in production
I've got a SB-22, 24, 27 and a MZ54i.
Rgds
Ivo
Anupam
Well-known
SB-28 - the widest range of manual power adjustments of the Nikon film flashes, bounce head etc.
ali_baba
Well-known
so stay from leica flashes is what you're saying?
i have not used a flash yet with my m system,
but i would like to have the option to freeze some longer stage exposures.
thanks
i have not used a flash yet with my m system,
but i would like to have the option to freeze some longer stage exposures.
thanks
Richard Marks
Rexel
SF24 definately not powerfull enough.
TTL flash is not brilliant on the M8 as it has a really intrusive pre flash which delays the actual exposure and half blinds your subjects, so you can look at pretty much anything with an auto flash mode.
I have the SF24 which offsets some of its inadequacy by being small and light. I personally want something a bit more flexible. I am even toying with a 45CL4. It will handle like a brick but I think it will get the job done.
Also curious about 60CT4 but not sure if it is OK in terms of voltage triger on an M8
Richard
TTL flash is not brilliant on the M8 as it has a really intrusive pre flash which delays the actual exposure and half blinds your subjects, so you can look at pretty much anything with an auto flash mode.
I have the SF24 which offsets some of its inadequacy by being small and light. I personally want something a bit more flexible. I am even toying with a 45CL4. It will handle like a brick but I think it will get the job done.
Also curious about 60CT4 but not sure if it is OK in terms of voltage triger on an M8
Richard
sirius
Well-known
nikonwebmaster, it was David Alan Harvey who changed my mind about using a flash with an RF camera. He does it soooo well, while still mastering the natural light work. It's just a tool, and a useful one, that needs to be used intelligently.
See examples from Divided Soul
See him in action here.
See examples from Divided Soul
See him in action here.
WoolenMammoth
Well-known
shooting music? how about no flash? nothing more anoying than being on stage and looking at flashes. From a photographers point of view, I'll never understand people's gravitation towards using a flash to shoot something that is lit... Ive been shooting music for 20 years and cant recall a single incident where I needed a flash.
oftheherd
Veteran
That's an off beat but interesting thought. Natural light is often the best to use.
I have another off beat thought. Unless you will be doing a lot of it, consider Winogrand. Bulb flash gives a lot of light and is more natural if you aren't too close and personal. Not an answer to your question here, but something to consider for a future try.
Richard Marks
Rexel
I much prefer to avoid flash but there are times when you have to use it.
I think that is the point of this thread.
Richard
I think that is the point of this thread.
Richard
ali_baba
Well-known
what do you shoot music with out of curiosity?
i havnt used a flash yet but sometimes i wish i had one with me incase, really just to freeze some more dimly lit situaitons.