Sureño
Established
hi guys, I'm new into pinhole cameras world and I would like to know your opinion about which photometer might be better for this kind of photography? I guess Aperture Priority should be a must, so that put the Sekonic 308s out of question. I'm looking for an affordable lightmeter for pinhole.
cheers.
cheers.
Mark A. Fisher
Well-known
This is a great way to determine exposure times for pinhole, and it's cheap! $22.00.
http://www.pinholeresource.com/shop...page=flypage.tpl&product_id=91&category_id=16
I have several, keep them in my car, my pinhole camera box, and one in my vest. They work quite well.
Mark
http://www.pinholeresource.com/shop...page=flypage.tpl&product_id=91&category_id=16
I have several, keep them in my car, my pinhole camera box, and one in my vest. They work quite well.
Mark
Papercut
Well-known
I use an old Weston (in my pinhole bag) or a Gossen Digisix, which only goes up to f/32 (then I have to figure out the equivalent for my pinhole apertures).
As for calculating exposure times, I've heard good things about the Black Cat, but I've just never bothered. I look up the reciprocity failure adjustment for the film I'm using and just do the math (either on a piece of paper or on my phone). If I'm feeling really lazy I just multiply the exposure time by 5 (short times -- under 1 minute ) or 10 (long times - over 1 minute) -- this approach seems consistent with the guesstimate-it approach I have when I do pinhole. One other thing: Fuji Acros is nice because out to about 2 minutes it requires little or no reciprocity adjustment.
As for calculating exposure times, I've heard good things about the Black Cat, but I've just never bothered. I look up the reciprocity failure adjustment for the film I'm using and just do the math (either on a piece of paper or on my phone). If I'm feeling really lazy I just multiply the exposure time by 5 (short times -- under 1 minute ) or 10 (long times - over 1 minute) -- this approach seems consistent with the guesstimate-it approach I have when I do pinhole. One other thing: Fuji Acros is nice because out to about 2 minutes it requires little or no reciprocity adjustment.
Sureño
Established
thanks guys you rock.
Papercut
Well-known
It may be a bit of heresy to recommend another board on RFF, but if you're serious about pinholing, I highly recommend you meander over to f295. The URL for the forums there: http://www.f295.org/Pinholeforum/forum/Blah.pl
Some of the posters there have forgotten more about pinholing than I will ever know. Fabulous work, passionate photographers, and very helpful posters.
Some of the posters there have forgotten more about pinholing than I will ever know. Fabulous work, passionate photographers, and very helpful posters.
thanks guys you rock.
rlouzan
Well-known
An old LunaPro + Zero pinhole disc / 8 banners chart
FrankS
Registered User
It may be a bit of heresy to recommend another board on RFF, but if you're serious about pinholing, I highly recommend you meander over to f295. The URL for the forums there: http://www.f295.org/Pinholeforum/forum/Blah.pl
Some of the posters there have forgotten more about pinholing than I will ever know. Fabulous work, passionate photographers, and very helpful posters.
Thanks for this link. I'm interested in pinholing.
segedi
RFicianado
Darnit Papercut - now there's another forum I have to read up on!
(thanks)
(thanks)
oftheherd
Veteran
As long as you know the aperture of your pinhole, any light meter should do. Just meter and then do your conversion to your aperture. Then if necessary, add exposure for reciprocity. You could then make yourself a chart.
Papercut
Well-known
Frank and segedi -- you're both more than welcome. F295 is where I go to get my pinhole fix, a great resource and inspiration. Enjoy!
Thanks for this link. I'm interested in pinholing.
Darnit Papercut - now there's another forum I have to read up on!
(thanks)
JoeV
Thin Air, Bright Sun
I use a Gossen Luna Pro F (for no special reason other than that's the meter I happen to own).
To use the meter for pinhole, I set the film/paper's ISO on the meter, then reference the exposure time (in seconds) for f/128 on the Gossen (the meter's highest f-number) then do the conversion this way:
(camera's f-number / 128) ^2 * exposure time for f/128 = camera's exposure time.
This does not take into account reciprocity failure. But I mostly shoot paper negatives, which have virtually no reciprocity issues at most normal exposure times for pinhole (upwards of ten minutes I've seen no significant reciprocity failure for paper).
I end up doing the calculation for the camera's f-number / 128^2 part of the formula ahead of time and afix this number, as a constant "K", to the camera with a label maker. Each of my pinhole cameras have their "K" factor number labelled thusly. In the field I do the metering on the Gossen, reference the exposure time in seconds opposite f/128, and multiply that number by the camera's K-value to yield the working exposure time. Very easy and also very accurate.
~Joe
To use the meter for pinhole, I set the film/paper's ISO on the meter, then reference the exposure time (in seconds) for f/128 on the Gossen (the meter's highest f-number) then do the conversion this way:
(camera's f-number / 128) ^2 * exposure time for f/128 = camera's exposure time.
This does not take into account reciprocity failure. But I mostly shoot paper negatives, which have virtually no reciprocity issues at most normal exposure times for pinhole (upwards of ten minutes I've seen no significant reciprocity failure for paper).
I end up doing the calculation for the camera's f-number / 128^2 part of the formula ahead of time and afix this number, as a constant "K", to the camera with a label maker. Each of my pinhole cameras have their "K" factor number labelled thusly. In the field I do the metering on the Gossen, reference the exposure time in seconds opposite f/128, and multiply that number by the camera's K-value to yield the working exposure time. Very easy and also very accurate.
~Joe
FrankS
Registered User
So, what is the Asa of printing paper, say, ilford RC mc?
Sureño
Established
It may be a bit of heresy to recommend another board on RFF, but if you're serious about pinholing, I highly recommend you meander over to f295. The URL for the forums there: http://www.f295.org/Pinholeforum/forum/Blah.pl
Some of the posters there have forgotten more about pinholing than I will ever know. Fabulous work, passionate photographers, and very helpful posters.
thank you Kevin! very very helpful link
Sureño
Established
I wish I could understand a word of your explanation..:bang:I use a Gossen Luna Pro F (for no special reason other than that's the meter I happen to own).
To use the meter for pinhole, I set the film/paper's ISO on the meter, then reference the exposure time (in seconds) for f/128 on the Gossen (the meter's highest f-number) then do the conversion this way:
(camera's f-number / 128) ^2 * exposure time for f/128 = camera's exposure time.
This does not take into account reciprocity failure. But I mostly shoot paper negatives, which have virtually no reciprocity issues at most normal exposure times for pinhole (upwards of ten minutes I've seen no significant reciprocity failure for paper).
I end up doing the calculation for the camera's f-number / 128^2 part of the formula ahead of time and afix this number, as a constant "K", to the camera with a label maker. Each of my pinhole cameras have their "K" factor number labelled thusly. In the field I do the metering on the Gossen, reference the exposure time in seconds opposite f/128, and multiply that number by the camera's K-value to yield the working exposure time. Very easy and also very accurate.
~Joe
my pinhole will be (didnt arrive yet from Poland) a Noon 6x6 f/158.
doing maths for reciprocity til 158 isnt it difficult? I was thinking about buying the Sekonic 308s but it doesnt have Aperture priority so I cant use it, right?
nikon_sam
Shooter of Film...
So, what is the Asa of printing paper, say, ilford RC mc?
Frank,
Start around 6 ASA
post #3002
FrankS
Registered User
Thanks Sam!
N
Nikon Bob
Guest
Ilford is marketing their own pinhole camera kit and also a direct positive paper too. The iso for that paper is 3. Looks like lots of interest in pinhole cameras.
Bob
Bob
Sureño
Established
I ended up buying the Gossen Luna Pro F, it looks good and I will be testing it in a week.
thanks
thanks
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