jackal2513
richbroadbent
A number of individuals have been 'had' recently by a seemingly mounting glut of fraudulent ebay auctions.
There is a thread on the Leica M8 forum for all to see but just to skim over the essential signs:
item located in austria
bank transfer only
possibly free postage
possible short auction
users email could well be xxx@gmx.at
bank name does not match with ebay name or original email name
sparse wording and poor english
possibly responds under the name of J. Nepp or Andreas Distel
If you watch the listings closely these things are springing up every single day. They have also set up a 'webshop' where presumbly they hope to further their activity with teh possibility of greater looking authenticity and transactions extranoues to ebay: www.photogear-at.com
Be very careful people.
There is a thread on the Leica M8 forum for all to see but just to skim over the essential signs:
item located in austria
bank transfer only
possibly free postage
possible short auction
users email could well be xxx@gmx.at
bank name does not match with ebay name or original email name
sparse wording and poor english
possibly responds under the name of J. Nepp or Andreas Distel
If you watch the listings closely these things are springing up every single day. They have also set up a 'webshop' where presumbly they hope to further their activity with teh possibility of greater looking authenticity and transactions extranoues to ebay: www.photogear-at.com
Be very careful people.
findwolfhard
Established
Fraud
Fraud
Yes, there were 2 Noctilux recently on Ebay!
In January and December some black enamel M2 , M3 bodies, - fotos obviously stolen from one of the Westlicht, Vienna auction catalogues.
Just check feedback carefully,- low number in the 20ties, all received as buyers of cheapo junk, NONE as seller! Very fishy!
Best regards Wolfhard
Fraud
Yes, there were 2 Noctilux recently on Ebay!
In January and December some black enamel M2 , M3 bodies, - fotos obviously stolen from one of the Westlicht, Vienna auction catalogues.
Just check feedback carefully,- low number in the 20ties, all received as buyers of cheapo junk, NONE as seller! Very fishy!
Best regards Wolfhard
nobbylon
Veteran
I reported 2 items yesterday, both from Austria, M4 black paint and a seperate lens listing. :bang: We should set up some fake evilbay accounts and just play them!
Peter_Jones
Well-known
Tell them a friend in Nigeria will sent them a cheque for much over the amount if they will make a payment of the difference :angel:
oscroft
Veteran
Ah, thanks for that. I'd noticed a few Leica items from Austria popping up recently, but I hadn't thought much of them as there is a genuine seller from Austria who sells Leica stuff from time to time.
But yes, all different sellers with low feedback, all either asking for bank transfer up front, or not including any payment details.
But yes, all different sellers with low feedback, all either asking for bank transfer up front, or not including any payment details.
jackal2513
richbroadbent
yep, they are 'selling' hasselblad gear as well
many of their auctions are being taken down though which is good
many of their auctions are being taken down though which is good
branki
Established
In these cases bidding up to really high prices might help.
I remember people doing that a couple of years ago on a 7" record collector seller: after some investigating and asking around (in forums like this one) potential buyers/ record collectors found out the seller was a scammer and the sought-after copies of the records were only virtual.
I seem to remember everyone "contributed to the cause" and placed a fat bid, bringing the final price to an outrageous amount.
Isn't the buyer to pay a % of the final selling price to ebay?
I remember people doing that a couple of years ago on a 7" record collector seller: after some investigating and asking around (in forums like this one) potential buyers/ record collectors found out the seller was a scammer and the sought-after copies of the records were only virtual.
I seem to remember everyone "contributed to the cause" and placed a fat bid, bringing the final price to an outrageous amount.
Isn't the buyer to pay a % of the final selling price to ebay?
oscroft
Veteran
Only if they actually get paid - if you don't get paid and make a "non-paying bidder" claim you either don't get charged or you get it refunded.
Photon42
burn the box
jackal2513 said:
"Nepp" in german means fraud. Tell these heros brother Antonio will take care ...
Rgds
Ivo
Digital Dude
Newbie
I have a 100-percent rating on ebay but the one item I purchased on there, I got screwed. I will continue to sell although I will never buy anything on there ever again. Ebay is simply too damn risky these days’ and I believe this especially true when it comes to expensive camera gear.
Regards,:bang:
Regards,:bang:
Eric T
Well-known
I have done many purchases on eBay - mostly camera gear. I have to say that I have had nothing but great experiences. Of course, I am careful. I check the feedback and I like to see many transactions. I only purchase if the buyer uses paypal and has a reasonable amount on the paypal protection system. And I usually only purchase from sellers in my home country (USA). That is not a criticism of other countries at all. It's just that I feel I have some recourse if it is a seller in my country. If I lived in the EU, I would probably restrict myself to EU sellers.
With a little care, eBay is a great place to shop.
With a little care, eBay is a great place to shop.
Imagestreet
Member
Fraudulent eBay Leica M7
Fraudulent eBay Leica M7
Yikes
Thanks RFF members for the warning! I am currently bidding on an eBay Leica M7
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330219674529
Which has a suspiciously low price, no reserve and a seller who is based in UK but is selling it in Austria.
Thought it was too good to be true! I've reported the entry to eBay and emailed the UK based seller (he has his email address buried in a sale he made in Feb this year) to confirm this is a fraudulent entry.
I have to say I've bought about £4000 worth of camera gear over the past 2 years on eBay and not had any problems. If you stick to powersellers and high feedback account owners you are usually OK.
Cheers
Fraudulent eBay Leica M7
Yikes
Thanks RFF members for the warning! I am currently bidding on an eBay Leica M7
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330219674529
Which has a suspiciously low price, no reserve and a seller who is based in UK but is selling it in Austria.
Thought it was too good to be true! I've reported the entry to eBay and emailed the UK based seller (he has his email address buried in a sale he made in Feb this year) to confirm this is a fraudulent entry.
I have to say I've bought about £4000 worth of camera gear over the past 2 years on eBay and not had any problems. If you stick to powersellers and high feedback account owners you are usually OK.
Cheers
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