Big Iron

Hi, Gordaon. I have a 4x5 Speed Graphic. There were lots of bumps under the leather covering of the front aluminum cover (bed when folded open) so I removed the leather and exposed the aluminum too. I'm thinking of sanding and polishing/buffing the aluminum. I have a 6x7 and a 6x9 roll film back as well as some Grafmatic backs. The focal plane shutter allows the use of older lenses in barrel. (without their own shutter) I was getting into LF when I got sidetracked by this 35mm rangefinder nonsense/obsession/joy.
 
Mildy related, I am in need of a pair of infinity stops for my Super Speed Graphic, any of you large formatters know where I might look to get some? I would really like to start using the rangefinder without having to check the ground glass every time I unfold the camera. 🙂
 
Originally posted by Gordon Coale The roll film backs are nice but there is nothing like sliding a sheet film holder into the camera and pulling the dark slide out. Kind of elemental. And then there is printing or scanning that big negative!
If you swap lenses on the Speeds, unless you have the fold-down infinity stops installed for each focal length, the ground glass is necessary.

I once had a 2x3 Miniature Speed with a roll film back and (IIRC) the 101mm Ektar lens. I had the Kalart rangfinder fine-tuned and that camera gave some outstandingly sharp negatives.

Presently I have my late father's 4x5 and 2x3 Speeds but don't really use them. Both are VERY well worn and I'll likely keep them that way. Pop took a lot of photographs with those old folders. Until in his later years he used them for group and wedding pictures.

Walker
 
nice! boy, i'm afraid to peek under the leather of mine though. i have a 2x3 and a 4x5, i did have a 3x4 once a long time ago. also had a (i think) 15 inch graflex telephoto lens for the big one. funny, it doesn't fold up too good with that on it......

: ) =
 
Another problem that arose when 35mm cameras replaced the Speed Graphic was bad backs. The Speed with a couple of film holders and flash bulbs was all the photographer carried. Not a lot of weight. Along comes the 35mm and suddenly the load increased with extra lens, spare bodies and other gadgets. The additional weight caused some photographers problems with their backs.

An interesting twist on the Mies Van Der Rohe idea of "less is more"! But not everyone went that way immediately.

About 20 years ago I worked for a very cheap newspaper, the old-fossil managing editor of which would always tell us his memories of the old days in the '30s, when he would be sent out on photo assignments with a Speed Graphic, one film holder (two shots), one flashbulb in the gun, and one extra flashbulb in the pocket. If you had to use the second flashbulb and/or film sheet, you'd be expected to explain why!

Of course, by the time I was there, the Speed Graphics had been retired to a shelf in the photo lab (I jury-rigged a 35mm back onto one and used it for copying wedding photos) and the reporters (who were expected to shoot simple photos themselves) were sent out on photo assignments with Konica Auto S2 cameras and Vivitar electronic flashes.

But that old managing editor, remembering that two shots had been plenty for him, insisted that the darkroom staff bulk-load short rolls of film for the reporters: a three-exposure roll for a single-picture story, or the ultimate luxury of a ten-exposure roll for multiple-picture stories.

No bad backs among that crew from carrying 35mm gear... but not a lot of good pictures, either!
 
jlw, that's a GREAT story and one for the books, as they say! The Editor sounds like a Depression-era survivor who took things a little too far. I doubt that the job paid enough for the staff photographers to hurt their backs with equipment they bought on their own!

I'll remember your account for a long time, I think. 🙂

Walker
 
doubs43 said:
Another problem that arose when 35mm cameras replaced the Speed Graphic was bad backs. The Speed with a couple of film holders and flash bulbs was all the photographer carried. Not a lot of weight. Along comes the 35mm and suddenly the load increased with extra lens, spare bodies and other gadgets. The additional weight caused some photographers problems with their backs.

Walker

You mean like this?

I think he should have stopped by the club house and hired a caddy.
 
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pitted aluminum; have you considered anodizing the aluminum parts? This would give you a hard protective layer, which could be dyed many colors, it would also seal the aluminum to prevent oxidation. You could actually do this at home with the right apparatus. I used to do this in the early 1970's to aluminum bicycle components.
 
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2maneecameras: how'd you do anodization yourself???
Folks can do it here at the university workshop, and we quite often request them to do it with optical components (not to reflect incident laser beams) but it's very very expensive to do it.
 
Big Iron update

Big Iron update

There has been some progress in cleaning up the 3.25x4.25 Speed Graphic. These pictures are of the same camera as the one in the beginning of this thread. The Leather is off and the tung oil is on and the metal polished. One of my customers is a leather worker. They did the strap. This strap is for my Burke and James but Tracy is building another just like it for this camera. Next I need to work on the focal plane shutter and then clean up and install the rangefinder and viewfinder and attach the new strap. Once the outside is complete I will then install the bellows and front standard. I then have to get a flashholder so that I can shoot flashbulbs with this camera.
 
Gordon, that's some very nice work on that old beater 🙂
Man, I love it when life is returned to those old cameras, making them useful again..

When you're done, we're expecting to see some shots!!!!

Denis
 
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Graphmatic backs: when are you folks going to talk about this film option for the speedgraphic, and what about the polariod backs?

I am not positve that they made 3x4 graphmatic backs. They did make film packs in 3x4. Gordon's 3x4 is a spring back so he is pretty much limited to using film holders.

I have the polaroid 545 that I use with my 4x5 Crown Graphic and 4x5 Super Graphic. I use Polaroid type 55 P/N in it and shoot at 25 ISO for the negative. It is a great learning tool for large format. I also have a Polaroid 500 Back, but it does not have a stop for the Polaroid sleeve. This makes it very easy to pull the sleeve completely out of the holder and very nearly impossible to re-insert correctly. It does help me with recalling some of my more colorful language that I used to use before I had children that would repeat everything they heard.

I have some 4x5 graphmatics. These hold 6 sheets of 4x5 film in seperate metal sleeves (called septums). They use magic to allow you to take a shot on one sheet then cycle that sheet to the back of the stack and have a fresh one up front ready to go. You can't get 6 fps but you can surely get 6 spf. I think they were designed by an old Black Jack dealer from Vegas. 🙂

Wayne
 
I made a lot of progress tonight -- part 1

I made a lot of progress tonight -- part 1

Things are going back together pretty well. The first order of business was repairing the focal plane shutter. I removed the screw that holds on the shutter release. DO NOT DO THIS. The bottom of the screw sheared off. The upper controls are for selecting the curtain aperture. The lower controls are for setting the tension. This is really a pretty simple mechanism. Taking apart the tension setting requires a special tool but it was working fine so I left it alone. I removed the curtain aperture selection mechanism to try and repair my stupidity. I ended up using some epoxy to bond the screw back in. By selecting one of 4 curtain apertures and one of 6 tension settings you have focal plane shutter speeds between 1/10 of a second and 1/1000 of a second.
 
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