raid
Dad Photographer
Congratulations. You made the right decision...quickly. Enjoy your valuable camera.
matt fury
Well-known
HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's great to hear that these things still happen. Gives me an excuse for watching CL! :O
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!
It's great to hear that these things still happen. Gives me an excuse for watching CL! :O
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!
bob338
Well-known
it actually gets better, the summaron is a 2.8 and it's a screwmount! i hadn't really paid any attention to it until a few minutes ago and discovered that it has an m adapter on it. life is good...
BillBingham2
Registered User
Bob,
Frank is 1,000% right. Sell it now, get a new MP or an old M3 and get it CLAed and put most of the cash in the a college fund for your son!
Great job guy. Have to start watching CL.
B2 (;->
Frank is 1,000% right. Sell it now, get a new MP or an old M3 and get it CLAed and put most of the cash in the a college fund for your son!
Great job guy. Have to start watching CL.
B2 (;->
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
Oh, man - that M3 is gorgeous!!! You lucky dog, you!
Boy Scout
Newbie
Lol.
Nice find!
Kinda would be funny if the seller read your post...

Nice find!
Kinda would be funny if the seller read your post...
erikhaugsby
killer of threads
Does it focus down to 0.7 meters, or 1 meter?bob338 said:it actually gets better, the summaron is a 2.8 and it's a screwmount! i hadn't really paid any attention to it until a few minutes ago and discovered that it has an m adapter on it. life is good...
bob338
Well-known
erikhaugsby said:Does it focus down to 0.7 meters, or 1 meter?
one meter.
bob338
Well-known
Boy Scout said:Lol.
Nice find!
Kinda would be funny if the seller read your post...![]()
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i don't think he'd find it very funny. when i was leaving his house, he said 'i hope you really use this camera and don't put it on a shelf or something. you're getting a pretty good deal on this thing."
a good deal indeed!
erikhaugsby
killer of threads
Even better--it's an authentic LTM lens!bob338 said:one meter.
The real 35mm f/2.8 Summaron on LTM is relatively rare, and commands "collector" pricing. You can tell it is "real" because the closest focusing distance marked is 1 meter. (eBay item 290014101551 is the real thing. eBay item 190012017325 is also the real thing, note that it did not meet reserve at $670!)
However, the more common original M2 version of this lens was made by putting an LTM to M adapter on the lens, secured by a set-screw. However, it was made with a close focusing distance of 0.7 meters. These are every bit as functional on an LTM camera once the M adapter is removed, other than they will decouple from the rangefinder when you focus closer than 1 meter. But they do NOT deserve the collector pricing of a "legitimate" LTM version. (eBay item 170013766457 is an example of one with the adapter still in place. eBay item 280010922770 is one of these missing the adapter ring, sold for $355.)
So, as you consider the price, compare apples to apples!
taken from a Pnet thread here
Wobbly
Newbie
What is this "black M3" in layman terms? I don't own any Leica gear. Nice find! Congratulations!
bob338
Well-known
Wobbly said:What is this "black M3" in layman terms? I don't own any Leica gear. Nice find! Congratulations!
it's a standard m3 but painted black instead of being chrome. from what i've read of the 225,000 m3s, only 1,320 were painted black. they were typically ordered by professional photographers so they are usually beat to hell when found these days.
http://www.cameraquest.com/lm3blk.htm
gandy's website(linked above) is a wealth of information on rangefinders.
NIKON KIU
Did you say Nippon Kogaku
You got a box too?
Kiu
sienarot
Well-known
bob338 said:here is a picture from his listing. sorry, but i don't have a digital to take a better one...
Maybe the seller could've done you another favor by taking photos with his soon-to-be newly acquired dslr
Wobbly
Newbie
bob338 said:it's a standard m3 but painted black instead of being chrome. from what i've read of the 225,000 m3s, only 1,320 were painted black. they were typically ordered by professional photographers so they are usually beat to hell when found these days.
http://www.cameraquest.com/lm3blk.htm
gandy's website(linked above) is a wealth of information on rangefinders.
That makes sense. Pretty rare and "listed" too, score!
Looks pretty beat up but considering everything and their typical owners used the hell out of them, not bad at all. Glad to see that the camera was used and not hidden away to collect dust. Thanks!
Bosk
Make photos, not war.
I am totally envious right now.
I had no idea they made black rigid summicrons either, that's an awesome lens.
I had no idea they made black rigid summicrons either, that's an awesome lens.
matt fury
Well-known
Wow, I just get more envious every time I look at it!!!!
ernstk
Retro Renaissance
Congratulations! That's a great find.
I bought an original black paint M4 last week, in excellent condition, for $1200. It's not as rare as your M3 but it just shows that these things are out there, waiting to be found.
Let us know if you decide to keep it or to sell it...
Regards
Ernst
I bought an original black paint M4 last week, in excellent condition, for $1200. It's not as rare as your M3 but it just shows that these things are out there, waiting to be found.
Let us know if you decide to keep it or to sell it...
Regards
Ernst
hans_s
Newbie
A black paint m3 and a black paint 50 summicron - just like yours - is on sale at an auction in Sweden right now. Asking price equals ca. 8.000 USD. Congratulations!
roundg
Well-known
what a luck....
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