Black Zeiss Ikon ZM

Leicanthrope said:
I can't help you there, but I can tell you that the plural of 'chassis' is 'chassis'.
Yes, but in the plural form the final "s" is sounded.
 
black lens on chrome body, yuck! i like how chrome lenses look on black bodies, though. harkens back to the leica ii and all that.
 
Huck Finn said:
The picture on the Zeiss pages at the Cosina website shows a black frame selection lever. The only thing silver I can see is the lens mount button & it looks okay IMHO. - Huck
Huck look at thumbnail photo, posted by Palaeoboy, on page 1 of this topic.
 
Ahhh . . . So, that's the photo. The shutter release button is also chrome in that picture. I don't know what Joel's source was for that photo, but I wonder which of the two photos the eventual camera will actually look like. :confused:

Huck
 
Huck Finn said:
Ahhh . . . So, that's the photo. The shutter release button is also chrome in that picture. I don't know what Joel's source was for that photo, but I wonder which of the two photos the eventual camera will actually look like.
That wood-grain counter the camera is resting on leads me to think that photo is one of a group I also downloaded on 1 Oct 04 about when the camera was first announced, and a non-working prototype was displayed at some show. I think the black one was also non-working, a "concept" box to guage reaction, possibly shown only behind closed doors and someone at the show placed it on a table and took those snapshots of it. Here's another from that series showing the top more clearly...
 
You're right, Doug. Those old pics of the black prototype are from a Japanese website. The current one in Cosina's page show a much shinier finish. I'm not so sure about the black (paint?) frameline-selector unless you want instant brassing.

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The camera will not look that shiny in person. That is just a shot for the web. If you look at real photos of it, it looks like normal black paint, not like a grand piano.

In any case, I have a japanese book that has tons of pictures of the Ikon. A few have the silver preview, and the others have black. The serial number for the camera with the silver preview is 00000004, and the one for the black paint preview is 00000273, so I assume that the production models will have the black paint preview....
 
StuartR said:
The serial number for the camera with the silver preview is 00000004, and the one for the black paint preview is 00000273, so I assume that the production models will have the black paint preview....
Interesting, as you can see in my post with the black prototype, its serial number is 00000004 too.
 
Maybe they just hadn't gotten around to fabricating a black paint one yet and just slapped one on there from the silver...

In any case, I am going to be in Tokyo on the 7th-9th, so perhaps they will have a black one around at one of the shops. I have seen the silver one already, and I think they said the black was going to be available earlier in Japan than anywhere else, though I don't remember what the exact date was going to be.
 
The photos I have are the prototype black model that was kept under the counter when the Silver version was first shown. Here is the set of them if you are interested.
 
Palaeoboy said:
The photos I have are the prototype black model that was kept under the counter when the Silver version was first shown. Here is the set of them if you are interested.
I for one wish and hope they do away with the silver bits on the final "black" version... Come on, this is a camera after all (i.e. a tool, as far as I'm concerned), not a piece of jewellery...
 
That's the same number 00000004 prototype. It is the earliest prototype we have photos for, and the only one that has the silver preview. Given that later prototypes and even the website have black previews, I would say that it is pretty safe to assume that the previews will be black.
 
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