HansDerHase
Established
...or do they?
For some prove that blown hightlights not necessarily degrade a picture and sometimes shadows just want to be black, check out the 08/02 series at Magnum Photos - Slate (http://todayspictures.slate.com/20060802).
Number 8 rules! It has that certain kind of glow.
So next time we fail on exposure / development lets hope the pictures come out accidentially like some of Trent Parke’s so we can call them iconic.
For some prove that blown hightlights not necessarily degrade a picture and sometimes shadows just want to be black, check out the 08/02 series at Magnum Photos - Slate (http://todayspictures.slate.com/20060802).
Number 8 rules! It has that certain kind of glow.
So next time we fail on exposure / development lets hope the pictures come out accidentially like some of Trent Parke’s so we can call them iconic.
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Ash
Selflessly Self-involved
That's why I love to blow highlights... unfortunately Pan F+ 50 is FORCING me to get correct tonal ranges. I guess you need the variation. Thanks for the link. 
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
I think they blowHansDerHase said:...or do they?
Blown highlights have been used to great effect. A lot of digital B&W pictures I've seen tend to use high-key blown highlights effectively. I'm not, however, so adventurous with the bending of reality.
jshelly
Established
Never heard of Trent Parke before, but I like his images. Very nice
Flyfisher Tom
Well-known
Excellent link Hans, thanks.
Ash
Selflessly Self-involved
subtle blown highlights? Such a thing?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/second-belated/Untitled-14a_sm.jpg
(this is 'bridge' to anyone following my "argh!" thread)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/second-belated/Untitled-14a_sm.jpg
(this is 'bridge' to anyone following my "argh!" thread)
Chaser
Well-known
wow, I've found a new photo to like.
thanks
thanks
Ash
Selflessly Self-involved
Trent Parke's or mine? 
Chaser
Well-known
Ash said:Trent Parke's or mine?![]()
It should have read photographer, meaning Trent Parke and not a specific photo but is style is interesting, but now that you mention it i do like the subtle use of tones in the shot you posted, It is a good reminder that high and low key images and contrast in general do not always have to be over the top...
Ash
Selflessly Self-involved
Haha I was messing about, but yea I was trying to show blowing highlights need not be garish 
R
ray_g
Guest
I like it. Very nice. I am not quite sure about the glow, though, and why it only affects the upper portion of the man like a halo.
kaiyen
local man of mystery
blown highlights or lack of shadow detail suck if you want detailed highlights and lots of shadow detail.
just like bad photos suck if you want good photos. it's all about what you want.
I believe that Ansel did actually say that every photos should have a IX in it as well as a II.
allan
just like bad photos suck if you want good photos. it's all about what you want.
I believe that Ansel did actually say that every photos should have a IX in it as well as a II.
allan
rvaubel
Well-known
kaiyen said:blown highlights or lack of shadow detail suck ......
I believe that Ansel did actually say that every photos should have a IX in it as well as a II.
allan
Not if there never was any zone IX or II in the picture to begin with. Or sometimes, the photographer may want to force a more contrasty, gritty appearance.
Of course most often highlights are blown that should be blown, like spectral reflections.
Rex
Nachkebia
Well-known
Not only it has been overblown but it also have been burned and dodged! absolutly fabulouse! 
kaiyen
local man of mystery
rvaubel said:Not if there never was any zone IX or II in the picture to begin with.
Or...you previsualized it in order to have a IX or I in it. The most powerful part of the ZS, in my opinon, is the concept of previsiualization. Sure, we all look at a scene and think "I wonder what it would look like if I used a wide angle and go really close, and distored that thing in the background." But how often do we say "I'd like that V to look like a VII, for an effect?"
And the ZS lets us do that. Whether there is a IX or I or II in a scene has nothing to do with whether it's in the final print or not. Or even on the negative.
allan
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Magus
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RObert Budding
D'oh!
A highlight is only blown if I've lost detail that I wanted to preserve. Otherwise it's an artisitc decision.
pvdhaar
Peter
I usually prefer blown highlights to muddy shadow areas in prints..
Ash
Selflessly Self-involved
Magus, I find the prints to be dull, but have huge tonal ranges, or better contrast and a loss of lighter tones. I think its down to the processing and printing of the images because, as you say, the neg preserves a helluva lot.
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