bought another 50mm lens

[raid]

oops ... i got 8 leica compatible 50's and some SLR 50's and GAS for more (sonnar, can u hear me?)

industar-22
elmar 3.5
summar 2.0 (coated)
summitar 2.0 (coated, 6 diaphragm blades)
summitar 2.0 (uncoated, 10 diaphr. blades)

elmar-M 2.8 black (collapsible, current)
summicron-M 2.0 black (latest)
noctilux (old version without collapsible shade)

since R-D1, only rarely used, and since i swore to myself to stop any collecting, willing to give away some of these and maybe getting some zeiss glass instead.

arrrrrgh! i HATE GAS!

do you know? it should be GAA instead (addiction).
sebastian

Sebastian,
Have you compared the two Summitars you own?
Is there any optical difference [like Bokeh] when having a different number of aperture blades?


Raid

 

[sebastel]

raid,

yet i did not compare them that deeply, but i plan to do it once i find the time to do so. still u need to find a reasonable example object, and go through the picture taking - will be some sunday morning task, i believe.

please bear with me and my slow progress on my diverse photographic projects ...

certainly i'll publish results once they exist. but for the time being, there are about 6 GByte of pictures waiting for processing before i can only think of doing that. sorry!

:-(
🙂


cheers,
sebastian

 

[raid]

raid,

yet i did not compare them that deeply, but i plan to do it once i find the time to do so. still u need to find a reasonable example object, and go through the picture taking - will be some sunday morning task, i believe.

please bear with me and my slow progress on my diverse photographic projects ...

certainly i'll publish results once they exist. but for the time being, there are about 6 GByte of pictures waiting for processing before i can only think of doing that. sorry!

:-(
🙂




cheers,
sebastian

That's fine, Sebastian. I wish you luck and fun in processing so many photos.
I was aslo curious how you view the new design lens,such as the latest Elmar 50/2.8, when compared to a more vintage lens.

Regards,

Raid

 

[FrankS]

'79 'Cron
Summarit
Summitar
Elmar 3.5
FED I-10
J-8
J-3
CV 50 f2.5

Only 8. I'd still like to try a current Elmar 2.8.

 

[sebastel]

raid,
i'll certainly include the other lens in my test setup. too curious myself not to do so 🙂

frank,
unfortunately i cannot hand over mine in a quick move, but as soon as you pass by my home (in southwestern germany) be sure to drop in!
:-D

c u l8er
sebastian

 

[back alley]

zm 50 planer

 

[raid]

raid,
i'll certainly include the other lens in my test setup. too curious myself not to do so 🙂

frank,
unfortunately i cannot hand over mine in a quick move, but as soon as you pass by my home (in southwestern germany) be sure to drop in!
:-D

c u l8er
sebastian

Sebastian,

Since you mention Southwestern Germany, are you living in the Heidelberg area or Freiburg? Maybe I will drop by and pick up "Frank's lens" while I am there?


Raid

 

[jja]

Frank and all 50mm aficionados, you are in good company:

"I believe that the best way to learn framing is to work with a rangefinder camera and the 50mm lens exclusively for a period of years. You must get to the point where you can unhesitatingly place yourself at the correct distance from an object so that it will be framed correctly when you bring the camera to your eye."--Ralph Gibson, Refractions.

 

[wrenhunter]

Frank, I am interested in your results, too. I have been thinking about the CV 50 a lot over the past two weeks. I took a few rolls with my J-8 last month and was underwhelmed.

I do have the Nokton 50, which I love, but having a compact 50 is a nice thing.

 

[sebastel]

raid,

i live close to karlsruhe (somewhere between), but running around in heidelberg more than once in a while.

frank,
if you're interested, the elmar-M actually is one of the lenses i'll probably sell.

til soon
sebastian

 

[FrankS]

PM sent. 🙂

 

[Gabriel M.A.]

Yes, but now you are getting nervous over the fact that it has 50 millimeters. Do you really need all of those millimeters, maybe some of them are redundant? How many are? Oh, and you have a ninety millimeter lens. That one definitely has too many. How many do you really need? You are very happy with your twenty five millimeter lens. I don't know, more than twenty five must be redundant, we can't have redundant......

RLMAOF. I was "proud" of my "nonexcessive" 50mm arsenal, but it got trimmed by two. Now I only have ten 50mm lenses, down from 12. And only two 35mm lenses.

I really thought the 50 Summicron was "redundant" because of the 50 'lux, but after looking at the last roll, which was Kodachrome 64, I saw that there is no such thing. The ones that took the bullet for it were the 50 Canon f/1.5 ( 😱 ) and the Contax-mount Sonnar 50 f/2; ok, so I thought those two were somewhat "redundant" because of my Sonnar 50 f/1.5 -- I actually made a profit out of the Canon lens. But that weren't the reasons; the reason? It flares badly.

If you used the Canon 50 f/1.5 before, Joe, you'll like the 50 Nokton. The bokeh isn't the same, but the crispness and sharpness are in the same neighbourhood wide open. And it flares in a "not unpleasant" way, when it does.

 

[raid]

raid,

i live close to karlsruhe (somewhere between), but running around in heidelberg more than once in a while.

frank,
if you're interested, the elmar-M actually is one of the lenses i'll probably sell.

til soon
sebastian

Sebastian,
I recall that the slower train route would go from Ulm to Heidelberg going through Karlsruhe (not the ICE).

Raid

 

[sebastel]

hi raid,

some go through karlsruhe, some not (then go through bruchsal, 20 km north).
anyway, heidelberg is a nicer place to meet 🙂

see u
sebastian

 

[richard_l]

Frank, as you progress along the path of the Buddha, you will discover that the lens doesn't matter; any old disposable camera will do as well as any other camera/lens. In fact, the pictures don't matter, except to the unenlightened. 😉

Shalom,

Richard

 

[FrankS]

Thanks Richard. I'm still working on freeing myself from this attachment to film photography and gear. I realize that it's just a distraction, but I'm not quite ready to let go of it just yet, it's still too much fun.

 

[sebastel]

as there is a discipline in the japanese buddhism (zen) using the bow and arrow, i have no doubt that using photography can deepen the understanding of the one.

true is, that the lens should not make the difference, but no zen archer will use warped arrows as well.

sebastian
alias 博斯安

 

[markinlondon]

as there is a discipline in the japanese buddhism (zen) using the bow and arrow, i have no doubt that using photography can deepen the understanding of the one.

true is, that the lens should not make the difference, but no zen archer will use warped arrows as well.

sebastian
alias 博斯安

One body, one lens, one film perhaps? The nearest I can think of to zen photography.

Mark

 

[FrankS]

There's Zen and there's Buddhism. Photography, like archery may be a vehicle to practice/experience Zen. Buddhism teaches to ultimately denounce material earthly attachments.

 

[harmsr]

I think we are all Mormons with multiple cameras, lenses, and films.😉