Brian Sweeney is back at RFF.

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Welcome back to RFF, Brian.

I know that you will add a lot to the enthusiasm here. We will hopefully then be back to discussing optics and cameras and modifications and good stuff like that! Maybe this will inspire others to set aside discussions about politics and COVID-19 ...

Let's return to detailed write-ups on why some lenses for a Retina camera can be improved by replacing some lens elements in Camera A by lens elements from Camera B! and then use the lenses with a Leica camera! This is fun. 😀😎🙂

I have many lenses (many are 50mm lenses) that Brian created for me. They are unique. Brian would tell me "your lens is the only one in existence ...."

Welcome back, Brian.
 
Thanks for the welcome back- I look forward to posting here again. It's nice to see so many people still here, and some of the new "Mentors", I've read Jason Schneider and Bill Pierce "for over 50 years".

I'm honored that what I started out doing with the Sonnars and Jupiters as a Hobby has been taken up by a new start-up in the UK.

https://skyllaney.com/2020/04/02/sonnar-resurrection/

Sonnar Revival! The C-Sonnar, Jupiter-3+, and new 50/2 Bertele Sonnar coming out soon. No flying cars in the 21st century, but we get brand-new Sonnar lenses.
 
I don't see any lenses for sale when I click on their website.

This is interesting for me:
Zeiss Planar MkII Conversions
Our newest 2020 offering. Professional conversion of the legendary Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 Planar to native Leica M mount with full RF coupling. Each conversion is bespoke and tailored to the individual customer’s aestetic desires. From a wide selection of custom leatherette choices, specialised cerakote finishes, and that red indexing dot….
The custom rear mechanics can even be machined to appear like the “Zebra Jena’ lenses from the 1960’s, reminscent of a time when the world seemed simpler.
Even exotic grip inserts such as genuine Napa leather or snake skin are available options.

The MkII Planar conversion brings that high speed Zeiss magic onto the rangefinder.
Specifically, 35/1.4, 50/1.4, and 85/1.4.
I left them a request as a comment.

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I wonder if they one day handle Zeiss lenses in QBM mount.
 
My goodness its good to see you here again Brian. I still have and use many of the lens conversions and shim jobs I bought from you and they have never let me down! I hope you still work on and love those old LTM and Nikon/Contax mount beauties.

Welcome back my friend!
 
Tried the skyllaney link also and there is nothing showing at this time. It sounds great I hope they are successful.

I thought so too at first, but if you click on some of the options/links on top of the screen, it took me to several pages of information.


Prices: https://skyllaney.com/prices/
Full Service:
To read what is included in our full service option please click here:

Full service description
Leica Screw and M mount lenses, non Aspherical: £169

Leica M mount lenses, Aspherical: £179

Zeiss ZM lenses, including the 35mm ZM Distagon: £159

Voigtlander VM and LTM lenses: £159

Please note: Thus far, we have found only two rangefinder lenses that can’t be done at the above price rates due to their complexity. The first is the Leica 50mm ASPH Summilux. The second is the Zeiss ZM 85mm f/2 Sonnar made in Germany (not to be confused with earlier Contax, Jena and Opton models).
Both lenses, due to their FLE design and multi helicoid implementation to drive said FLE, requires the usage of specialised tools and jigs to ensure the lens is disassembled and assembled correctly. We offer partial services for these lenses, which involve helicoid re-lubrication and general cleaning. We are not able to tend to any internal defects that may exist within the lenses optical stack up, especially near the FLE area at the moment, as this requires very specialised tooling.
Other lens designs that contain FLE’s, such as the Zeiss 35mm Distagon f/1.4 ZM lens, we have worked on without issue.


SERVICES: https://skyllaney.com/services/
We offer a range of services to help you achieve the results you’re after. Not sure what you need, or what it costs? We can explain what services are right for you and tell you more about our fees. Get in touch by clicking the link below.

Contact us
We can service, clean, lubricate and adjust almost all Leica M, Zeiss ZM, Voigtlander VM, and legacy LTM lenses. In addition to that – most mechanical lenses made in the last 100 years. Old lenses like the pre-war 5cm Jena Sonnar from 1935, all the way to the 50mm f/1 Noctilux, we have worked on and serviced with delicacy, care and attention to detail.

Summicron, Summilux, Elmarit, Sonnar, Planar, Biogon, Nokton, Heliar, Ultron, Jupiter, and the list goes on.

We are highly experienced in optomechanics and the physics involved in bending and manipulating light. We understand how the lenses work down to engineering design, material property, wavelength and photon level operations. Not only we are able to diagnose and repair most mechanical problems with lenses, but we are also actively designing and making our own lenses in-house. We utilise ray-tracing software and advanced 3D CAD applications, model FEA simulations on our designs, and purpoosely choose memorable classic lens formulas to resurrect with new modern AR coatings and high precision all-metal mechanics.

You can find the description of what’s included in the full service here:

Full service description
If your lens contains fungus, haze, oily aperture, excessive dust and debris – we can help.
Click on the link below to see the list of prices for our services:

Prices
Re-greasing
We stock a range of professional greases, imported from Japan, Germany and Russia. We can thoroughly clean and regrease your lense’s helicoids and are sometimes able to offer alternate grease viscosities to improve focus movement. This service works great for lenses like the early Summicrons, and many tabbed LTM lenses from KMZ, Canon, Contax, etc., in which high-speed focusing may be preferred over the more dampened feel.

In rare cases, where a customer may desire the old fashion greases (non-synthetic), we have these too.

Certain lenses, like the 50mm ASPH M-Summilux, have inherent issues with a phenomenon called ‘focus pinching’. Due to their triple helicoid design which causes the FLE to move at a different rate than the primary optical block, it induces extra strain on the helicoids to perform the secondary element movement. Often the lens begins to pinch at the helicoid when trying to find focus, the user then induces more force through their finger on the tab, and then the added force applied overcomes the helicoid strain. The released force causes the focus to then jump, often past the precise position the user was trying to achieve. Interestingly, fallen back to either a thinner synthetic grease from stock or reverting to the type of grease the manufacturer used before their shift to synthetic greases, helps greatly in fixing this issue.

6-bit coding
We are also able to offer 6-bit coding on certain Leica, Zeiss and Voigtlander lenses, but this currently involves a mount replacement. We are developing appropriate jigging, tooling, and CNC programs, which will allow us in the future to reference a consistent datum off a customer’s existing LM bayonets and apply the 6-bit coding very accurately from there.

Calibration
Many other camera lens repair companies use traditional methods of using ground glass at the film plane with a 10x loupe to check for centring and collimation. We use a high resolution full-frame digital sensor to peer through the lens at the appropriate film/sensor plane registration distance, in conjunction with a German-made Messsucher and optical magnifier that uses its swing arm to then engage the rangefinder cam on the lens under test. We can then compare the live feed from the digital sensor showing the placement of critical focus on the lens side, against where the calibrated Messsucher believe it should be via its split prism patches. Adjustments then can be made to the lens to bring both sources in line with each other, and this verification of coinciding can be done anywhere from 700mm to infinity. Thus, we can ensure a form of calibration accuracy on rangefinder lenses to levels above the traditional ground glass and film loupe method which has been traditionally utilised in the past.

Once calibration has been verified as near distance and infinity, with often many in-between distances verified also, we fill out a calibration certificate that is laminated and provided back to our customers.

Full restoration and painting
Full lens restoration is also available, which involves a strip-down of the individual components, often getting a bath in an ultrasonic cleaner to remove all debris and old lubricants. Touch up paint can be used to cover over brassing or silvering on black lenses, and clear anodised aluminium lenses (like Zeiss Jena and KMZ Jupiter), can be fully polished to a near mirror finish. We also can have your camera lenses painted. Changing the font colours to red instead of yellow on Leica lenses is also available. We also have certain leatherette finsihes, light absorbing paints, and seals that can bring sometimes even the most condition challenged lenses back to new glory.

Read more about a complete restoration of old Sonnars in our post:

Sonnar Resurrection
Fungus removal
Fungus removal is done using various safe formulas we have found that work very well. Sometimes, fungus damage may be so severe, that coatings have been removed off the elements. Thus, even after the fungus is removed, its footprint, known as ‘ghost of fungus’, remains. More often than not, all the fungus will come off, and we see this ‘ghost of fungus’ phenomenon very rarely, but it does sometimes occur. Once we gain access to the lenses internal elements, we often then can better advise the extent of the funugs, and send photos of the before and after to our customers.

Aperture works
Apertures can be de-oiled, and de-greased, rebuilt and even converted to round ‘perfect bokeh’ apertures.
Many classic rangefinder lenses suffer from some focus shift. Often, it’s not too noticeable. Specific designs, like the 50mm Sonnar and 35mm ASPH Summilux V1, it’s so pronounced, it can be annoying unless the user knows how to compensate for this.
We can calibrate lenses that have noticeable focus shift, to a particular aperture for you. On Sonnar lenses, f/2.8 calibration allows for the smaller apertures down to f/16-22, to all be in focus. However, f/1.5 and f/2 become front focused then. Choosing f/1.5 instead causes f/4 and f/5.6 to be back focused. With f/1.5 Sonnars, we’ve had a lot of luck choosing f/2.2 as the calibration point.
This causes f/1.5 to be sharper than the f/2.8 calibration, but then also causes f/4-5.6 to be sharper than the f/1.5 calibration, almost a happy compromise. Equally, we can do f/1.5 or f/2.8, which are the classic calibrations also if you prefer.

Aperture blade modification and complete aperture change is something we plan on offering in the future. Read more about it here:

Aperture Repairs
Haze and scratches
In certain optical formulas, haze can get trapped between two elements on a doublet or triplet stack. In these situations, it’s very difficult to separate the two elements, and precisely rebond them after cleaning. We have mostly seen this on Voigtlander LTM and VM lenses, as well as older Minolta M-Rokkor lenses. At the moment, we don’t have the facility to do this type of separation and rebonding in-house, but we have an international expert with whom we can subcontract out to, to perform this process if need be.

However, the haze that is ‘hard baked’ onto an optical element, from years of exposure without cleaning, we can usually remove. The same can be done for mild scratches. The process is rather labour intensive and involves hand polishing the affected optics very carefully with cerium oxide for several hours.

We are currently looking into procuring a spherical lens polishing machine, which would automate this process. The process also results in the lens AR coating on that surface being removed. We have had excellent results with our process, bringing back to life many lenses that had a grey veil, low contrast and bad flaring on their images. Sometimes the process leaves something called ‘onion ring bokeh’, where, the polishing process to remove the haze or scratches, shows a faint but visible presence in the bokeh balls when the lens shoots at the wider apertures. Many modern electronic AF lenses from Sony and Zeiss also suffer from this aberration in their bokeh balls due to the polishing process of the aspherical elements. We bring this up, so our customer are aware that removing haze or scratches is not always a flawless and straight forward process. More often than not, there is some minor remnant left, which could affect the integrity, definition and clarity of the bokeh balls. Nevertheless, we offer this service if the customer requires it.

General haze and fungus removal on non doublet and triplet sealed elements is usually done under our full service. The more persistent baked-on haze, treating ghost of funugs, and coating damage is not inclued under the standard full service, but often can be addressed at cost, depending on the extent of the issues. Again, we often send photos to customers of these areas once we gain acess to them and attempt to clean them.

New AR coating
We are able to have lenses recoated with new AR coatings. However, this is something one of our subcontractors provides for us, and their pricing structure is such that, whether we do 30 optical elements or just 1, the price is very similar, as they are all done together in a batch process.

If you would like us to AR coat any non-doublet or triplet elements, this may fall under a long lead time service. To transfer the price break down to our customers, we typically wait until we have 30 or more elements that need their old coatings stripped and new AR coatings applied, then send them off as a batch.

We are not able to offer AR coating on doublet and triplet blocks, as the process would be of such a long lead time, we would not want our customers separated from their equipment for this length of time. We believe very firmly no customer should be separated from their camera or lens, being repaired, for no more than a few months.

Currently, we have two AR coating subcontractors, one in the United Kingdom, and another in Lithuanina.

Part manufacturing
Due to our in-house LIDAR scanner, powerful 3D CAD and CAM software, and custom-built, high accuracy dual 4-axis CNC and lathe machines, we can offer a complete engineering, design and fabrication of brand-new parts based off your old, broken or damaged lens parts. If you have a broken part on your lens, we can design and manufacture a new part for you. Sometimes, to offer a more cost-effective solution, we may be able to repair the part also. As we keep most of the process in-house due to our machineshop, we can transfer this service to our customers at much lower rates than other providers.

To have a look at our custom-built CNC machine, follow this link:

CNC Upgrade
Customisation
We can custom-make parts for your lenses, such as focus sticks and finger tabs. Finger tabs can be designed specifically to the diameter of your focus finger. The finger tab can be permanently attached to the focus ring when you send us your lens for servicing and customisation. Alternatively, we can send you our removable version which uses non-permanent 3M VHB.
3M VHB is the same powerful double-sided sticky tape used by auto manufacturers to bond their logos and car lettering to automobiles. It is also used on Leica cameras to attach the aftermarket tumb grip called ‘thumbie’. We give you three sets of 3M VHB on every finger tab ordered. For removable versions, we often need a few simple dimensions from your lens, which can be taken with a calliper (such as the focus ring outside diameter, width, and any other unique features). The diameter of the finger used for focusing, at the top joint, can also be used to personalise the tab for you further.

Conversions
We offer full conversions of non-rangefinder coupled lenses to Leica rangefinder coupling.

In the spirit of Miyazakisan of Japan who first inspired us with his masterful conversions of Contax G lenses to Leica mounts, we are able to offer conversions of certain types of lenses, adapted over to Leica M mount. Typically, 50mm SLR lenses are the most cost-effective for this conversion, as their focal lengths can often be adjusted to become the standard 51.6mm, used by Leica, Voigtlander and Zeiss Ikon rangefinders. Ideal candidates are the Contax 50mm 1.4 Planar, Canon 50mm FD 1.2 L, Minolta 50mm MD 1.2, Nikkor 50mm 1.2 Ai, and the SLR Magic 50mm 0.95 Hyper Prime (LM mount, non-coupled version). Many other M42, Pentax, Olympus, etc. lenses can also be converted.
Lenses outside the typical 50mm focal length require special helicoids to be made, to translate their movement back to the standard 51.6mm reference. Having the front of the lens rotate on 28, 35, 85 and 90mm lenses adapted to rangefinder coupling is more cost-effective than having them not-rotate, as the rotating version can use the simplicity of a sloped CAM, thus bringing the price of the conversion down. Non-rotating lenses require two new helicoids and two brass fork sliders, which take the main focal lengths movement and translate it back the 51.6mm reference. Thus, while this is usually the most elegant and sought-after solution for non-50mm lenses, it is also the most costly.

Anodising and plating
We work with local aerospace suppliers, to offer an assortment of finishes to all our custom parts, from black, silver and many other colours of anodising, to nickel and chrome plating. We are also able to plate parts in 97% solid gold, which is also known as hard gold. There is a limit also to how thick any anodising or plating can be, to ensure we do not influence the tolerances between the parts on the lenses.

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Oh wow, how cool to have Brian back on the forum. I joined long after he had already left, but have been visiting many old threads and articles of his while digging through Google-rabbitholes of lens trivia.

It's always good when knowledge is shared.
 
I suspect that Skyllaney is selling as fast as they can convert lenses.

My wife and I are fortunate to be able to work at home for most of the week. My house looks more like a computer lab, have not had as much time to work on lenses. Last weekend I took a couple of Canon 100/3.5's apart to clean haze out- I'll document this. Two were sent to be after being pronounced "not worth opening for an estimate". They cleaned up well. Turns out that the optics of the much cheaper R and FL series can be substituted for bad glass.

Work has been busier than ever- I've been asked to design a new generation board for embedded applications, the 7th in a series over the last 18 tears. It will most likely be the last before I retire, ~4 years.
 
Oh wow, how cool to have Brian back on the forum. I joined long after he had already left, but have been visiting many old threads and articles of his while digging through Google-rabbitholes of lens trivia.

It's always good when knowledge is shared.

Thankyou very much. As I have time- will get some threads on various lenses up. Much of the information is from disassembling many lenses, and I've not seen it documented elsewhere. Some of the threads put up are across the web, will try to recreate more of them here.

I also promised on the Leica Users Forum to make some of my Custom software for the M Monochrom more general purpose. Meaning a custom algorithm to map "underperforming pixels" and correct them. Also add a Gamma curve to the M Monochrom image. I worked with Digital Imaging 40 years ago, and through the 80s and 90s. A few years ago, started writing some custom code for the M Monochrom. Recently converted it to run under Windows. Of course it will be free, and for anyone that uses Watcom Fortran-77: I love giving away source code. Insert Maniacal laugh. i love Fortran.

Do you know why Yoda does not use Java, and only uses Fortran?
In Fortran there is no TRY there is only DO...

So little has changed in the years.
 
A huge welcome back! It will be so great to read your posts
and enjoy your adventures with lenses and mounts plus all
the new technologies. My hat is off to you.
 
Chris (at Skyllaney) and I come from a similar background, working with digital imaging systems in the Scientific field. We have a lot of common interests, Chris has made what is a hobby for me into a new profession. I admire him and the company for this. I'm referring people to them for modification work, especially the Sonnar conversions. I will be happy to help anyone wanting to do the work themselves, and have written several guides for the process. These are on the web, and I can also put on Dropbox.

https://www.instagram.com/skyllaneyoptomechanics/

Chris posts his projects on Instagram. If you see the 35/2 Wollensak Raptar and 1928 4cm F1.4 Biotar: I sent them those two lenses as a gift so they could show off Skyllaney's skill. When they arrived, he worked all weekend to convert them. He is an enthusiast.

Chris had let me know several months ago that they were making a Bertele 50/2 Sonnar literally with my name on it, cited some of the documents that I put out for conversions. I wanted to do something nice for them.

I might have more Sonnars than he does...

Eight is Enough by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr

1934 5cm F1.5 Nickel on the M9, converted with a Black Valdai J-3;
1935 5cm F1.5 with coated front element, J-3 mount
1936 5cm F1.5 uncoated, J-3 mount
1936 5cm F1.5 coated, not marked,, J-3 mount
1938 5cm F1.5 coated T, J-3 mount
1943 5cm F1.5 "T", original LTM, rebuilt this lens including loose inner triplet
1946 5cm F1.5 "T", post-war transition lens. Put a new middle triplet in this one, original was not polished
1945 5cm F1.5 "T" original LTM on the Canon 7. This one required a sleeve to be made to keep the barrel from wobbling.

15 years of cherry-picking lenses. Ended up with Sonnars from 1932 through to the J-3+. Can't blame Jason Schneider for this!
 
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