Buckling marks on film with Paterson reel, 120

[Vickko]

I developed two 120 TriX films using the Paterson plastic reels (twist to wind film) and the films had what looked like buckling marks.

Is this typical?

Or did I do something wrong? Twist too hard to wind on the film?

I thought I was gentle, although I had to fight with one film to get it on the reel.

No issues with a third film that I developed using the standard steel reel.

...Vick

 

[nikon_sam]

I normally don't have any problems loading 120 film onto Paterson reels...as long as they are dry and I check that the ball bearings are loose in their slots...I can load the film by twisting the reels then push the roll until it stops...I'll do this to load two rolls on one reel...
I've had more Buckling Marks when loading SS reels...but I'm getting better...
You should never have to "Fight" to get them loaded...the film should almost glide on...
I have several reels that I know work well with 120 film so I'll use them first...

 

[brainwood]

I agree with Sam , you should not need to use any force.
I find smaller twists work better than trying to use the full travel and helps stop any buckling from happening
They are prone to sticking if there is even a slight trace of damp .

 

[Vics]

I always had that trouble til I switched from the Patterson System 4 tanks to Nikor stainless steel reels and tanks. It can still happen, but not as often.

 

[nightfly]

Stainless steel hewes reels.

 

[larmarv916]

Stainless reels, never seem to present any issues. Also in the dark once your don loading, you can tap the heel of the flat of the reel on the "palm" of your hand and is it's loaded correctly there is a slight rattle...that sound normally show that the films floating freely in the reel...and not binding. Take a "dead" roll of film and load it with your eyes closed, try it and then look at how it is loaded in the light...practice makes perfect !

 

[Vics]

Stainless steel hewes reels.

I do love the Hewes reels for 35mm. I haven't seen the 120 ones.

 

[Moto-Uno]

Just amazing isn't it,I started with Patterson reels and loved them,however when they got dirty ( not noticeable 'til after cleaning) my love of them changed.Tried stainless steel units(nikor) ,didn't think that was any improvement at all (but they used less chemistry) and after the cleaning on Patterson reels,well I'm back in love with them again. I guess it's a matter of "better the beast you know"
Regards,Peter

 

[Soeren]

Seldom have a problem with mine and if its nothing a good scrup with a nailbrush won't fix.
Best regards

 

[cjbecker]

Make sure you wind the film on in the right direction.

 

[bigeye]

Practice. I've used both the Peterson and Hewes reels successfully and unsuccessfully. Only advice is to practice with a blown roll, if you haven't done it in awhile. There is a certain 'feel' when using either that has to be remembered.

.

 

[wakarimasen]

I just sat my Patterson reels in a weak bleach solution for a few hours after one was tricky to load.

They now look pearly white!

 

[Bingley]

I recently started developing 120 at home. Although I use Patterson reels for 35 mm, I found it harder to load the plastic reels when expanded for 120, and that was even after practice. So I switched to stainless steel Hewes reels, and find these are easier to load. No problems with buckling either. YMMV.

 

[maxwell1295]

If it's a 2 reel tank you should only develop 120 film with the one reel. Placing the extra reel on top of it will cause the reel to buckle. It took me a little while (actually a long while) to figure that out...