Bulk Film Loaders

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After posting on Joe's(back alley) poll about bulk loading film, I went & dug out the 2 bulk loaders that I've got. One is a Watson model 100 35mm bulk loader. The other is a Lloyds daylight bulk film loader. The Watson has a counter that counts the # of exposures you load into the cartrage while with the Lloyds, you have to count the # of rotations as you turn the crank, & use a chart on side of the loader to determine the amount of exposures loaded into the canister. The Watson was my user years ago but the Lloyds came in a lot of supplies I won on e-bay. Looking at them both I think I like the Lloyds better. Much simpler to use, it seems than the Watson. I have never used the Lloyds & just wondered if any one has used any of these loaders or have something different.

Greg
 
After reading Joe's post, I became interested in bulk loading film to save on costs. I've been looking and I see regular loaders and daylight loaders. I was wondering how the daylight bulk loaders worked. Specifically, how do you load the bulk film inside of them in the daylight?
 
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Just found out that even with the so-called daylight loaders, one still need to insert the film into the bulk-loader in the dark. Daylight implies that one can load the film into the cartridges in daylight. I was a bit confused. Sorry about the dumb question.
 
Greg,
If I'm not mistaken, the Lloyds loader uses felt seals and the Watson uses light traps (baffles). Check to see that the Lloyds loader isn't scratching the film before you use it to load a bunch of cassettes.
 
Nando said:
Just found out that even with the so-called daylight loaders, one still need to insert the film into the bulk-loader in the dark. Daylight implies that one can load the film into the cartridges in daylight. I was a bit confused. Sorry about the dumb question.
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No dumb questions here Fernando. :) You do have to load the bulk film into them in the dark but it is a surprisingly easy operation.
 
Nando said:
Just found out that even with the so-called daylight loaders, one still need to insert the film into the bulk-loader in the dark. Daylight implies that one can load the film into the cartridges in daylight. I was a bit confused. Sorry about the dumb question.
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Same as daylight negative tanks. Load them in a darkbag, then process them in daylight. So for me, "daylight" bulk loader doesn't imply that you load the bulk roll in daylight, but that you can perform the task for which it was built in the light :)

I have 2 watsons and an AP. I like the AP best as you get the last frame. ;)
 
ElrodCod said:
Greg,
If I'm not mistaken, the Lloyds loader uses felt seals and the Watson uses light traps (baffles). Check to see that the Lloyds loader isn't scratching the film before you use it to load a bunch of cassettes.
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Your right about the Lloyds having felt seals on it. I wouldn't have thought about scratching the film, but I see where it could. Appreciate the tip.:)
 
Nando said:
Just found out that even with the so-called daylight loaders, one still need to insert the film into the bulk-loader in the dark. Daylight implies that one can load the film into the cartridges in daylight. I was a bit confused. Sorry about the dumb question.
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Nando, thats not a dumb question. If you think about it, it's really misleading to call it a daylight loader., But thats what is printed on the side of it. You have to load it in the dark. And you have to keep the lid shut while you wind film into the cartridge or you'll ruin the film. :D
 
Thanks for clarifying. I did find it really misleading. What about cutting a film leader at the end of loading a cartridge. Does the loader do it or do we need to do it ourselves?
 
Nando said:
Thanks for clarifying. I did find it really misleading. What about cutting a film leader at the end of loading a cartridge. Does the loader do it or do we need to do it ourselves?
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You got to do it yourself. Sorry Ravinder I didn't see your post.
 
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