Buying An Iskra, Or A Second One

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I would like to dedicate this posting to the folks lurking for an Iskra, or for a second one. I have no knowledge to judge why an Iskra folder instead of another folder, since I never used any other one. But Iskras I buyed four, along the years.

The Iskras offer you two choices of frame format. The original 6 x 6, or the Soviet kitchen developed 6 x 4,5.

Furthermore, you can use, with due explanation 120 film, or 220 film.

I have nothing against the 6 x 6 square format, but the cost. And another small complain as well that you don't must share with me: it sounds me a bit anachronistic to change film (and Medium Format film !) after 12 exposures only.

So if you are in love with the square format, but hate entangling with film exchange, 220 film will give you 24 exposures per roll. Note I have not explained yet what arrangements you need to perform.

Kodak still sells 220 film Tri-x, coded txp, bearing a nominal exposure of ISO 320. Note that ISO 320 is the double of ISO 160, an ISO very sought by pros. And indeed, pulling txp to 160 in MF makes Tri-X to shine as a luxury meal.

If you are outside the USA, notice that the falling dollar now is probably reducing the price of most of films at the USA by half of what you may be paying at your country. The problem is BH overseas shipping prices. But if you have any friend at the US, buy from BH, ship it to your friend and find a good arrangement to pick it up.

As you may know already there are two types of Iskras, the "Iskra" and the "Iskra 2". Now I am going to voice some very controversial sounds. It is of popular knowledge that the advantage of the Iskra 2 is having an uncoupled meter.

But for me this is absolutely irrelevant and I will explain why. Like the Olympus SP rangefinder, like the newer Gossen Digisix digital meter, the Iskra 2 meter doesn't tell you straightforward what combination of exposure to use but give you an Exposure Value, that you have to translate afterwards to the camera rings.

This method is terribly enervating for me, or plainly useless. To my knowledge and experience there is only one camera design that uses this method in a very clever way, not forcing you to think maths and it is the Lynx 1000 rangefinder. You move the speed ring until the needle falls on the green circle at the viewfinder, and automatically you will have all the combinations at your lens compound ring, being able to move both exposure and speed together - if you wish. No Exposure Value scale in the middle, although it is an exposure value method.

But the Iskra 2 has other advantages of great value over the common Iskra. In the technical aspect the front glasses of the viewfinder window are very much recessed, making a casual touch of your fingers virtually impossible.

Cosmetically the top casting is much more beautifull designed to my taste, and made from a higher quality chromium.

But the great great advantage is the exposure value scale on the top, very much usable too as a virtual counter of frames when using 220 film.

Ok, no more about 220 film by now.



What to look for when purchasing an Iskra ?

Regardless of the format and type of film you intend to use, let's start with the common features of all, we must make sure are found in our prospective Iskra.

What is the most important of all?
a) That the speed selector works in "B". Why ? because otherwise we would not be able to calibrate the rangefinder. I am sure there are some lonely RFF members out there on the hills (perhaps an Aussy too) which have got a perfectly rangefinder calibrated camera. But don't forget that most are not, and that we are talking here about MF, where depht of field is many times close to zero.

b) That both the camera back borders and specially the camera borders welcoming the back are spotlessly straight. No compromise here too. Light leaks are the penalty.

c) no need to say that the shutter and apperture should work, and I frankly don't think you will get a non-working one. But don't forget that "B" should work too !

d) That the 33mm thread for a hood is not damaged. Your seller will tell you, and honestly, he doesn't have any 33mm filter or hood to check this. Then, prepare yourself beforehand, buy one and ship it to the seller. No hood No Iskra. A very few of them are single coated. 33mm rubber hoods are already in production and on sale at eBay. A day after I informed this on RFF they all disapeared, but they will come back.

e) That you have a camera case, or at least and much more important a lower half case. Below I will explain the advantages of red holes Iskras. You will need the half case to drill on it a hole parallel to the Iskra back red hole, and you will need the lower half case to insert a piece of paper between the camera back and the half case to hidden the red hole, after you have wound the film.

f) That the red hole in an Iskra back is reasonable countured. It doesn't need to be as perfect as from the factory, as in one of my Iskras, but not a disaster too, as in another of my Iskras. With a reasonable one, i,e, enabling us to read the numbers in the paper side of the film, we will do the rest.





What is not important at all and why ?

a) The most common desease of the Iskras is their very stiff focusing ring. Like everything in the Iskras, excluding the shutter, the fix is a piece of cake I will explain at another time.

b) That the film counter works. It will break soon, and it is much easier to wind the film via the red hole in the back. But if you are caught with a broken film counter formerly supposed to work, and have no red hole in the back, you are grilled. You will be forced to work with 220 film only.

The great great news here is that Iskras with working film counters (in their way to break with use) are more expensive than Iskras with a red hole, and as explained this situation plays directly into our benefit.



End of Chapter

Ok, that's all by now. I have not explained yet how to smoothen the focusing wheel, how to fix a hole in the bellows, some minor but nice technical and cosmetical tips and hope to continue very soon.


Cheers,
Ruben
 
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Amen to Rubin, I have both of these cameras. The ISKRA II with a functioning and reasonably accurate lightmeter and a Iskra I that is almost mint by FSU standards from the factory. The frame counter is the weak point and I bought three parts cameras before I could make one work right out of the existing parts. I have more time and trouble in them than they are worth even at the prices they are commanding now for junk but the are sure are a joy to use when I have time. Dave


ruben said:
I would like to dedicate this posting to the folks lurking for an Iskra, or for a second one. I have no knowledge to judge why an Iskra folder instead of another folder, since I never used any other one. But Iskras I buyed four, along the years.

The Iskras offer you two choices of frame format. The original 6 x 6, or the Soviet kitchen developed 6 x 4,5.

Furthermore, you can use, with due explanation 120 film, or 220 film.

I have nothing against the 6 x 6 square format, but the cost. And another small complain as well that you don't must share with me: it sounds me a bit anachronistic to change film (and Medium Format film !) after 12 exposures only.

So if you are in love with the square format, but hate entangling with film exchange, 220 film will give you 24 exposures per roll. Note I have not explained yet what arrangements you need to perform.

Kodak still sells Tri-x, coded txp, bearing a nominal exposure of ISO 320. Note that ISO 320 is the double of ISO 160, an ISO very sought by pros. And indeed, pulling txp to 160 in MF makes Tri-X to shine as a luxury meal.

If you are outside the USA, notice that the falling dollar now is probably reducing the price of most of films at the USA by half of what you may be paying at your country. The problem is BH overseas shipping prices. But if you have any friend at the US, buy from BH, ship it to your friend and find a good arrangement to pick it up.

As you may know already there are two types of Iskras, the "Iskra" and the "Iskra 2". Now I am going to voice some very controversial sounds. It is of popular knowledge that the advantage of the Iskra 2 is having an uncoupled meter.

But for me this is absolutely irrelevant and I will explain why. Like the Olympus SP rangefinder, like the newer Gossen Digisix digital meter, the Iskra 2 meter doesn't tell you straightforward what combination of exposure to use but give you an Exposure Value, that you have to translate afterwards to the camera rings.

This method is terribly enervating for me, or plainly useless. To my knowledge and experience there is only one camera design that uses this method in a very clever way, not forcing you to think maths and it is the Lynx 1000 rangefinder. You move the speed ring until the needle falls on the green circle at the viewfinder, and automatically you will have all the combinations at your lens compound ring, being able to move both exposure and speed together - if you wish. No Exposure Value scale in the middle, although it is an exposure value method.

But the Iskra 2 has other advantages of great value over the common Iskra. In the technical aspect the front glasses of the viewfinder window are very much recessed, making a casual touch of your fingers virtually impossible.

Cosmetically the top casting is much more beautifull designed to my taste, and made from a higher quality chromium.

But the great great advantage is the exposure value scale on the top, very much usable too as a virtual counter of frames when using 220 film.

Ok, no more about 220 film by now.



What to look for when purchasing an Iskra ?

Regardless of the format and type of film you intend to use, let's start with the common features of all, we must make sure are found in our prospective Iskra.

What is the most important of all?
a) That the speed selector works in "B". Why ? because otherwise we would not be able to calibrate the rangefinder. I am sure there are some lonely RFF members out there on the hills (perhaps an Aussy too) which have got a perfectly rangefinder calibrated camera. But don't forget that most are not, and that we are talking here about MF, where depht of field is many times close to zero.

b) That both the camera back borders and specially the camera borders welcoming the back are spotlessly straight. No compromise here too. Light leaks are the penalty.

c) no need to say that the shutter and apperture should work, and I frankly don't think you will get a non-working one. But don't forget that "B" should work too !

d) That the 33mm thread for a hood is not damaged. Your seller will tell you, and honestly, he doesn't have any 33mm filter or hood to check this. Then, prepare yourself beforehand, buy one and ship it to the seller. No hood No Iskra. A very few of them are single coated. 33mm rubber hoods are already in production and on sale at eBay. A day after I informed this on RFF they all disapeared, but they will come back.

e) That you have a camera case, or at least and much more important a lower half case. Below I will explain the advantages of red holes Iskras. You will need the half case to drill on it a hole parallel to the Iskra back red hole, and you will need the lower half case to insert a piece of paper between the camera back and the half case to hidden the red hole, after you have wound the film.

f) That the red hole in an Iskra back is reasonable countured. It doesn't need to be as perfect as from the factory, as in one of my Iskras, but not a disaster too, as in another of my Iskras. With a reasonable one, i,e, enabling us to read the numbers in the paper side of the film, we will do the rest.





What is not important at all and why ?

a) The most common desease of the Iskras is their very stiff focusing ring. Like everything in the Iskras, excluding the shutter, the fix is a piece of cake I will explain at another time.

b) That the film counter works. It will break soon, and it is much easier to wind the film via the red hole in the back. But if you are caught with a broken film counter formerly supposed to work, and have no red hole in the back, you are grilled. You will be forced to work with 220 film only.

The great great news here is that Iskras with working film counters (in their way to break with use) are more expensive than Iskras with a red hole, and as explained this situation plays directly into our benefit.



End of Chapter

Ok, that's all by now. I have not explained yet how to smoothen the focusing wheel, how to fix a hole in the bellows, some minor but nice technical and cosmetical tips and hope to continue very soon.


Cheers,
Ruben
 
Great read as usual Ruben ... I look forward to the fix for the rather stiff focussing. Mine's ok but could be better!
:)
 
mongo141 said:
..... and I bought three parts cameras before I could make one work right out of the existing parts. ..... Dave

Hi Dave,
Could you detail ?

Cheers,
Ruben
 
Keith said:
Great read as usual Ruben ... I look forward to the fix for the rather stiff focussing. Mine's ok but could be better!
:)


As an intermediate trick, given that your focussing ring is not bad, open the camera back.

You will see four screws around the rear lens. Unscrew each one by half a turn, and feel if the focussing improves.

This is not the whole story, but a partial stage.

Cheers,
Ruben
 
ruben said:
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d) That the 33mm thread for a hood is not damaged. Your seller will tell you, and honestly, he doesn't have any 33mm filter or hood to check this. Then, prepare yourself beforehand, buy one and ship it to the seller. No hood No Iskra. A very few of them are single coated. 33mm rubber hoods are already in production and on sale at eBay. A day after I informed this on RFF they all disapeared, but they will come back.

...

I wouldn't be so hasty - an Iskra really doesn't need a lens hood. The lenses are all (single) coated, and even shooting into a low sun, I've never had any problem with lens flare. If you are worried, just rotate the camera and use the lens door as a hood.

Even if the threads are damaged, you have another option - series VI filters and accessories. A series VI slip on adapter (35mm or 1 3/8") is what you need, then all filters, lens hoods and close up lenses fit in the series VI holder. Easier to find these than 33mm screw in adapters.

While there are many Iskras with damaged film transports, there are also many out there that work well (like my Iskra and Iskra II!). As long as you are not a total ham-fisted operator, the film transport should work for a long time.
 
I'm very grateful to Ruben because I've bought and cleaned my Iskra under his supervision :) .

Even if the threads are damaged, you have another option - series VI filters and accessories. A series VI slip on adapter (35mm or 1 3/8") is what you need, then all filters, lens hoods and close up lenses fit in the series VI holder. Easier to find these than 33mm screw in adapters.

I've found an another solution. I use a 36mm slip-on hood and filters originally developed for Meopta Opema or Industar lenses. I've bent them a little so they can slip-on safely. I've collected the whole set of filters for b/w, even a Russian linear polarizer.

I've found also using the red window very easy and convenient. So contrary to the common opinion I suggest everybody to buy a back-holed Iskra because the former owners have probably found them worthwhile to been converted. I'm, completely satisfied with my Iskra and I'll use it more and more.

A couple of examples :

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P C Headland said:
I wouldn't be so hasty - an Iskra really doesn't need a lens hood. The lenses are all (single) coated, and even shooting into a low sun, I've never had any problem with lens flare. If you are worried, just rotate the camera and use the lens door as a hood.

Even if the threads are damaged, you have another option - series VI filters and accessories. A series VI slip on adapter (35mm or 1 3/8") is what you need, then all filters, lens hoods and close up lenses fit in the series VI holder. Easier to find these than 33mm screw in adapters.

While there are many Iskras with damaged film transports, there are also many out there that work well (like my Iskra and Iskra II!). As long as you are not a total ham-fisted operator, the film transport should work for a long time.


Hi P C,

You are not hasty at all. You have had your experience, and I have had mine. Both are real.

But I admit that for me the issue of a hood is more religious like than based on experience. Many photographers feel nude if they don't have a UV or other filter on their lens. I feel the same without a hood. May be there is more mistique here than facts, but of course I am not absolutely a rational being.

Cheers,
Ruben
 
Thanks for your post, Ruben. I've been looking for a red window Iskra for sometime now without luck. I did find one with a non-working advance that could be converted to a red window but I haven't had any luck finding information on how to do the conversion. Any ideas? Thanks.

Joe
 
Yes Joe,
Making yourself the red hole is highly unrecommendable unless you are in the bussiness of working metals, threads etc.

But, if the Iskra you have found is at a good price and answers the criteria I exposed above, you can use it with 120 film by the same way I use 220 film.

You will have to learn how many turns each frame requests, and they vary each 3 or 4 frames, and then make yourself a sticker to stick on the camera with the info.

Then you will mark the ISO dial as to convert it into a film counter. Each frame you shoot - you moove to the next marked number.

If the price is good, the case is offered in good shape and all my criteria found this camera deserves to be captured.

Furthermore, almost all FSU sellers hold stock of parts they don't offer for sale, in the hope they will get the other missing parts, or improve a camera. So it is really worth to email one by one asking for a red hole back.

Of course you will need first to make your mind if you want to have a 6x6 Iskra or a 6 x 4,5. Here, the conversion is a kids play, and I will detail at due time.

Cheers,
Ruben
 
I had a Series V screw-in hood lying around that screwed into a few of the filter threads of my Iskra. Works well.
 
Iskra I and II

Iskra I and II

Hi Rubin, as I remember, (It has been a couple of years) the basic problem was a very long spring that had been overly extended and bent parts from trying to force the thing to work plus stripped gears. There is a pair of toothed cog wheels that a hooked steel finger has to drop into. These turn at differant speeds so the release finger drops into a differant successive notch each time thus locking the winding mechanism after a certain number of revolutions of the gear train, ie. one frame. The whole thing is driven through a very tiny set of clockwork gears made from brass.
The problem starts with the pawl that you see at the top right when the back is off. The arm is made of a very flimsy piece steel that engages part of the measuring system that again uses that toothed wheel that you see at the top right of the film gate. This gets pushed in when it rides up over the film itself from the paper. Western films seem to be on a thinner polyester substrate than FSU films which compounds proper engagement of some very small gears. If that rounded "pawl" has its arm bent or distorted for some reason proper gear engagement doesn't occur and the whole film counter starts stripping gear teeth. sometimes just taking the top off and straightening the arm itself will make it work. When the counter reaches 12 and the shutter is released the whole thing unlocks and allows you to wind the film to the end. Opening the back releases everything and that long spring returns every thing to Zero. The whole thing is a brilliant piece of engineering that has been poorly executed and even when working properly film spacing is erratic. Dave


ruben said:
Hi Dave,
Could you detail ?

Cheers,
Ruben
 
Diomedes said:
I'm very grateful to Ruben because I've bought and cleaned my Iskra under his supervision :) ......


Hi Diomedes,
Only lately I remember that period of email exchange. It seems to me that then you caught at a time I was not active in Iskra issues and have by then forgotten a lot. It seems to me I mentioned that to you and was somehow trying to say the minimum.

Now all my memory is back, upon having to disassemble again, and I will try to do a serious effort to photograph all the issues. The Iskras are really a piece of cake in terms of easyness to deal with, very accesible to the one who has never disassembled any camera.

In the case of the Kievs rangefinders, I insist and urge everyone to disassemble as a matter of necessity imposed by the camera. It is not that easy. But here with the Iskras it is really easy.

Cheers,
Ruben
 
mongo141 said:
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The problem starts with the pawl that you see at the top right when the back is off. The arm is made of a very flimsy piece steel that engages part of the measuring system that again uses that toothed wheel that you see at the top right of the film gate. This gets pushed in when it rides up over the film itself from the paper. Western films seem to be on a thinner polyester substrate than FSU films which compounds proper engagement of some very small gears. If that rounded "pawl" has its arm bent or distorted for some reason proper gear engagement doesn't occur and the whole film counter starts stripping gear teeth. sometimes just taking the top off and straightening the arm itself will make it work. When the counter reaches 12 and the shutter is released the whole thing unlocks and allows you to wind the film to the end. Opening the back releases everything and that long spring returns every thing to Zero. The whole thing is a brilliant piece of engineering that has been poorly executed and even when working properly film spacing is erratic. Dave


Hi Dave,
In all my Iskras, the first thing I did is to extract this arm punching the film on its top, and then I take care for black taping the top and bottom holes left by the extraction.

This extraction is applyiable for non working film counter mechanisms, which I insist are a better deal. But let's not go into parrochial debates about it.

Just a slight remark, while being a lurker of the Fujica GS645, only today upon reading its manual I saw it gaves 15 frames only, against the 16 for those of us using the Iskra 645 with a red hole.

Cheers,
Ruben
 
Good original ones exist but it still allows tinkering !

Good original ones exist but it still allows tinkering !

ruben said:
I have nothing against the 6 x 6 square format, but the cost. And another small complain as well that you don't must share with me: it sounds me a bit anachronistic to change film (and Medium Format film !) after 12 exposures only.


Cheers,
Ruben


Several years ago I bought an Iskra I from two East Europeans on a Dutch photo fleemarket for a low price.

The counter worked, it had its original 6x6 format, the glass was perfect. The focusing ring was a bit stiff but easily brought back to smooth, it isn't an ergonomically nice design for short distances but it works well now. There was a small leak in the bellows just below the lens. A LED + a battery package in the camera and me in the darkroom made it easy to check. A piece of folded black paper and a bit of glue solved that in the inside of the bellows. The focus was correct, I checked it with an adapted focus glass. View + rangefinder cleaned, and an old spectacle glass delivered teh raw material for the 6-7 mm diameter -4 dioptre lens that I put at the inside of the eyepiece so I could use teh camera without glasses. The next year I found on the same market several 33mm thread B&W filters that fitted + a 33mm flexible hood. Some months ago I replaced the Soviet skin with a leather skin as the first was a bit damaged and hard to repair. I must have the camera more than 5 years and no sign that the winder counter is going kaput. The one on the Kodak Monitor 620 is worse in construction like the overall construction is.

So the essential parts were good but the bellow and they are still good. I can understand that the internet is more risky but I must have had luck with the 3 other folder rangefinders that I bought on the internet.

I like the 6x6 format for scanning as much film area as possible. I have some 6x9 folders as well. I do not mind the 8 or 12 images as I usually have two folders with me and enough film to develop with shorter intervals than would happen with more frames on a film.

The EV values work for me, I have that experience with the converted Polaroid 110 + a small Polaroid exposure meter and with the Iskra I + Lunasix III. The EV numbers are on the lenses so I do not see it as a translation. After entering them you have your mind to decide whether it will be aperture or shutter speed prefered. The other folders do not have it but shifting between them isn''t a problem.


Ernst Dinkla
 
Hi Ernst,

Your preferences seem to be just the opposite of mine, and both of us are happy. This prooves the flexibility of the camera.

Cheers,
Ruben
 
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