C-41 Col in Rodinal?

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I've seen a couple passing references to this topic and thought I'd try it to see what it looks like. Does anyone have a suggested time and dilution for developing C-41 films in Rodinal?

Gene
 
greyhoundman said:
1+50, 19C, 10-20 minutes

19 minutes worked with Fuji Superia 200
Thanks for that fast reply, g'man! It sounds like an interesting winter project.

Gene
 
10 cc's Rodinal in 1 liter of water for one hour with no agitation. Kodak C41 color process b&w.
 

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More info please...

More info please...

feenej said:
10 cc's Rodinal in 1 liter of water for one hour with no agitation. Kodak C41 color process b&w.

Film? ASA-ISO speed? Oh, maybe I answered my own question. Was this Kodak BW400CN or Ilford XP-2 Super?
 
Um, feenej kinda specified it was Kodak, which means BW400CN since there is no other C41 B&W in the Kodak stable. :)

That's so funny to me that you can develop C41 B&W in Rodinal and have it look so... straight.
 
feenej, on the stand development, have you played around with the stand times or do you stay put with one hour. If you did do some experimentation I'm wondering about less time or more .
 
The Kodak C41 in Rodinal has interesting characteristics, but it looks underexposed to me. Given the setting and lighting it's completely understandable. Do you have other frames with more generous exposure? Those would be interesting.
 
I have always stuck with the same exact stand developing method for some reason. I always do my color film this way too. I get blown highlights sometimes, especially when flash is used. Here is another picture from that madrigal night. It has that "stand development glow" that I like.

I developed a roll of Fujicolor 200 last week this way with terrible results, but normally this works well.
 

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Leighgion said:
which means BW400CN
Not so. You can develop any of the C41 films in Rodinal. it's just a matter of finding the concentration, time and agitation that gives the best result.
 
Peter: feenj said "Kodak C41 color process b&w" ... perhaps a bit ambiguous wording, but I took it as BW400CN as well.

You are correct, though, that any C41 can be processed in b&w chemicals. Some do better than others. I am not an expert on this.
 
Lots of interesting ideas in this thread. I'll try gman's suggestion first since I have some Superia 200 in my stash. It's one of those things I want to do out of curiosity. You never know when an oddball crossprocessing technique can give you ideas for a project. If I get anything interesting out if this, I'll post an image or two.

Gene
 
I have some BW400CN i can spare for tests so I'll give it a shot
Rodinal 1+50 for 20 minutes should do (or not???)
 
For 1:50 I think 20 minutes is too long; I use 20 min for 1:100. For 1:50, MasDev says either 9 min @ EI 250 or 13 min @ EI 400 for Tri-X. So depending on your exposure try either or split the difference. Since Rodinal is compensating going longer isn't necessarily a disaster. But how it works with C41 based films might change that.
 
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