California fires...

Ronald M said:
Being in Illinois, I have no photos. however news has reported police caught a man in the act of starting a fire in highway median strip and live streaming it on facebook. He did not care about getting caught until the found the police were deputized by federals and not going to catch and release
local but to federal detention.

Also obvious most of the fires are started next to highways
by means of fire bombs thrown from moving cars.

Sad situation.
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Considering the damage and death caused by the fires it confounds me to think of people intentionally starting fires. I can only hope they get the justice they deserve.
 
hap said:
Too busy dismantling old solar panels which can't be recycled. Broken wind mills.

Yes, they need to clean brush at substations and high power line towers. Also need to have controlled burns. HIgh smoke related to density of burning forests.

I am fortunate to live in a suburb that is not typically at risk although we've had fires and had to evacuate....
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I am in suburbs also, but in the hills, so occasionally we have close calls too.
 
Yah, air quality get's worse every day, and we only had one day of the Pantone Tobacco Leaf here. Portlands been getting it even worse.

rfaspen said:
It's bad. Very bad.
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Allot of these are not really Forrest Management problems, more often they are PG&E (old outdated and unkept power lines) and winds problems. Or Freak electrical storms that cook off chaparral. Of worse you get a Gender reveal party + Fireworks and that leads to hell storms we keep getting now.
 
markjwyatt said:
We live with these fires in the West. It is horrible to see home get destroyed, and even worse people getting hurt/killed. I think better forest management techniques are needed, and are being called for.
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Australia has a similar problem to USA in this regard. Governments under extreme pressure from hard core green groups and lobbyists refuse to properly manage public lands by having regular limited burn offs during cooler months in order to reduce major fire hazards, These burn offs lower the intensity and incidence of wildfires by lowering fuel load - the accumulation of dead grass, fallen branches, leaf litter etc. (Apparently limited burn offs might scare some endangered furry creatures even though they ultimately save millions of them.)
A few years later when fuel load builds up enough, there is an inevitable holocaust which destroys everything in its path - forests, living creatures, farms, livestock, housing, people, infrastructure - creating a national disaster that the extremists who refuse to take responsibility for their own contribution promptly and loudly proclaim to be solely due to "Global Warming". (As they have done here earlier this year, And as they are doing even now in the USA)
Rinse and repeat every few years..................................
This has happened many times and inquiries held afterwards have routinely recommended that better forest management is urgently needed. Nothing has been done. Now, please understand, I am not criticizing global warming arguments - here is not the place for that. But I am critical of people who use it as an excuse for everything, resulting in disasters for everyone. Oh and I am certainly critical of politicians who refuse to do what the evidence says is right because they are afraid they will be attacked by some who are opposed to their agenda (who probably would not vote for them anyway). Australia like the USA is full of such self servers and time servers in high office.
 
charjohncarter said:
Orange/brown skies over Danville. by John Carter, on Flickr

Danville, CA 9:30 AM. 9/9/2020.
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Sometimes California looks so much like Adelaide - this could be in one of our suburbs. I suppose the sky color adds to it when there are fires since we have them too, but in particular the home you depict is so like many suburban houses here from perhaps the 1970s and 1980s. I think we followed Californian design trends as there we have very similar climate and life styles.
 
peterm1 said:
Sometimes California looks so much like Adelaide - this could be in one of our suburbs. I suppose the sky color adds to it when there are fires since we have them too, but in particular the home you depict is so like many suburban houses here from perhaps the 1970s and 1980s. I think we followed Californian design trends as there we have very similar climate and life styles.
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In my past, I hosted a man from Adelaide. I drove him around the SF bay area and he kept saying that this looks like Adelaide. We do have lots of your eucalyptus here.
 
Ronald M said:
Being in Illinois, I have no photos. however news has reported police caught a man in the act of starting a fire in highway median strip and live streaming it on facebook. He did not care about getting caught until the found the police were deputized by federals and not going to catch and release
local but to federal detention.

Also obvious most of the fires are started next to highways
by means of fire bombs thrown from moving cars.

Sad situation.
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Unless you either live in the west or have traveled extensively, many Americans have no idea of the vast, open areas. I often explain to my sister in Pennsylvania, in Oregon we have counties the size of New Jersey. Many of the current fires in southern Oregon and Northern California were started by a dry lightning storm during the last week of August and had been burning for more than a week. A freak wind event fed the fires with winds of forty miles and hour with gusts sometimes doubling that speed. These fires started deep in forested areas, hundreds of miles from the population centers. Some are started by humans but mostly by accident. There was an arrest in the southern Oregon town of Phoenix of someone caught in the act of setting fires in town. The fires are the result of too many dry years, too many dead trees, too much fuel load on the ground and not enough resources to tackle the problem before it starts. Those spreading the stories about random groups starting fires are just trying to disseminate fear.
 
madNbad said:
...Many of the current fires in southern Oregon and Northern California were started by a dry lightning storm during the last week of August and had been burning for more than a week. A freak wind event fed the fires with winds of forty miles and hour with gusts sometimes doubling that speed. These fires started deep in forested areas, hundreds of miles from the population centers. ...
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Someone I know had to leave his home near Portland. He said there was an evacuation order, AND the fires were currently 100 miles from him. Amazing and sad.
 
markjwyatt, are you past the danger? I hope so, no rain up here (SF area) and we had a big wind 2 nights ago. Luckily, no new (big) fires.
 
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