canon F1...heavy

Mackinaw said:
What's the serial number? If it's above 500,000, you have a F-1n (second generation model). If it less than 500,000, you have a first generation F-1.

If there's no film in the camera, look at the date code stamped in ink in the film cassette chamber. That will tell you the year and month it was made.

Jim B.
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i will check all that when i get home.
 
Ronald M said:
Marty Foresher ran a very pro oriented camera repair business in New York City. First class ++ all the way.

He referred to Pro Nikons and Canons as "buit like a hockey puck." . . . .
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Not exactly. I spent quite a few happy hours with Marty Forscher (not Foresher) and he certainly said that Nikon Fs were built like hockey pucks, but I never heard him say the same about other Nikons or any Canons, nor have I seen references to his saying this.

As for breaking a Pentax lens by dropping it 18 inches onto your bed, all I can say is that you must have been very unlucky indeed. Pentaxes were quite widely used professionally in the early 60s, before Canon learned how to make professional SLRs.

Many reckoned too that Pentax quality declined when they moved factories in about '67. I started to work professionally as an assistant in the 1970s and people I worked with (up to 30 years older than I) certainly didn't regard screw-mount Pentaxes as "consumer junk".

Cheers,

R.
 
Dwig said:
Actually, the original F-1 and its tweaked "n" updated brother had "hot shoes", just not ISO standard shoes. Like the Nikon F & F2 they had a shoe at the base of the rewind with an electrical contact(s). By putting it there it could be screwed solidly to the body casting ("hockey puck" school of camera design). Both Nikon and Canon sold adapters for their proprietary shoes that would allow mounting of ISO standard accessories in addition to some dedicated flash accessories that fit directly.
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The only downside to this placement of the hot shoe is that it prevents verification that the film is loaded properly and is being transported properly. That rotating rewind dial confirmed this at a glance. When you couldn't see it, you could be in for a surprise. Please don't ask me how I know this.:bang:
 
peterm1 said:
May I correct the title of this thread to "Canon f1....heavy.....and beautiful"
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Dear Peter,

Well, if you're going to be like that, why not make it "..heavy.....and beautiful . . . and not as reliable as a Nikon F (because almost nothing is).

All of my Fs work fine. My only F1 intermittently refuses to acknowledge the existence of slow speeds.

Cheers,

R.
 
Original F-1: http://global.canon/en/c-museum/product/film78.html (max ISO 2000)
F-1 "later model" (often called F-1n, but not by Canon): http://global.canon/en/c-museum/product/film95.html (max ISO 3200)
New F-1 (often called F-1N, but also not by Canon): http://global.canon/en/c-museum/product/film105.html

I've had an F-1 "later model" and New F-1. The older one was great, but having to find mercury batteries was a problem (and the original owner had jammed their thumb into the titanium shutter, which didn't bother the shutter, but it might eventually fail), so I moved to a New F-1. I liked shutter priority AE, but it just didn't feel as simple or solid as the older one. The prism-top hot shoe thing adaptor for the old F-1 was a bother to deal with.
 
I had two original F1's with the MF Motor Drives, mine were refurbished "Olympic" models Canon had loaned out to Pros during the Olympics a few years earlier. Mine came from "Swallens" in Cincinnati I guess they bought a big lot of "Olympic" stuff from Canon. Later on I worked for a couple of years in the Swallens camera department, we carried an impressive amount of pro quality gear. Also their pro audio department was similarly impressive. They had all the biggest names in the business.

Now I have two Minolta SRM's which are similar in heft and size.
 
drew.saunders said:
Original F-1: http://global.canon/en/c-museum/product/film78.html (max ISO 2000)
F-1 "later model" (often called F-1n, but not by Canon): http://global.canon/en/c-museum/product/film95.html (max ISO 3200)
New F-1 (often called F-1N, but also not by Canon): http://global.canon/en/c-museum/product/film105.html

I've had an F-1 "later model" and New F-1. The older one was great, but having to find mercury batteries was a problem (and the original owner had jammed their thumb into the titanium shutter, which didn't bother the shutter, but it might eventually fail), so I moved to a New F-1. I liked shutter priority AE, but it just didn't feel as simple or solid as the older one. The prism-top hot shoe thing adaptor for the old F-1 was a bother to deal with.
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I have an F1n and two F1N bodies. I have sold my motordrive. These cameras are rock solid (they weight as much as a large rock)!

For many years my lenses were limited to a 50/1.4 plus 80-200/4 plus 28-50/2.8, and an "exotic" 24mm/2.8 wide angle lens. It was a wonderful set for travel.
 
I have the Thorium (sp?) 35mm mounted on my F-1n.
A great "pre-filtered" lens for B/W!
 
I used to shoot one w/ a FD 135 2.5 lens (the "beer can", and a very, very good lens). When I would hand it off to admirers, they all said the same thing...wow, it looked heavy, but it's even heavier than it looks!
 
The Canon F-1 weighs 795 gms, body only, the new F-1 with a f 1.4 is 1030 gms. So heavy; my Spotmatic from 1969 weigh 642 gms body only. But size (and a little bit weight) was the sales killer for me.

But the Canon 5D iii weighs 950 gms so maybe the F-1 felt light by comparison.
 
Nokton48 said:
I had two original F1's with the MF Motor Drives, mine were refurbished "Olympic" models Canon had loaned out to Pros during the Olympics a few years earlier. Mine came from "Swallens" in Cincinnati I guess they bought a big lot of "Olympic" stuff from Canon. Later on I worked for a couple of years in the Swallens camera department, we carried an impressive amount of pro quality gear. Also their pro audio department was similarly impressive. They had all the biggest names in the business.
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OMG I bought my first "real" camera at Swallens in Cincinnati, at the Tri-County Shopping center in 1976, a Canon TX. That's the camera I started amassing lenses for which eventually led to the purchase of the F1.

Small world.

Best,
-Tim
 
The flash coupler/adapters for the F-1 and F-1n all slip around the rewind knob. Model D had a simple hot shoe. Model L had a hot shoe and a light for the meter in the viewfinder. Model F also attached at the base of the rewind knob, but the hot shoe was positioned on top of the prism. It's bracket also attached around the finder eyepiece.
 
I recently picked up a new old stock F1n.
I grew up admiring my dad’s ever present FTb, and I lusted for the top of the line beast.
Surprisingly, shutter speeds are dead on. Light seals and mirror foam need some attention, but I picked up replacements.

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Maybe I'm just different................

Maybe I'm just different................

Dear backalley,

But I don't see the Canon F-1 as heavy?

I obviously did this before I started typing, but I held in one hand a Canon F-1n with the power winder F and a 28-80 zoom. In the other hand I held a Nikon 8008S with a 24-135 zoom.

If they differ in weight by more than 2 or 3 ounces I'll be amazed. I swear the Nikon 8008S body weighs as much as a Canon EOS 1DMK3, body for body.

I shoot wildlife pictures almost exclusively. I'm used to a 150-600 zoom hanging off my digital bodies. I'm sure my Canon F-1n with the motor drive MF and my Vivitar 120-600 weighs more than my Canon EOS 1DMK3 with a the 150-600. However, neither feel crippling to me.

It might help that I'm a gigantic Neanderthal but I grew up with an F-1 so it will always be the standard by which I judge when comparing camera's weight and dimensions.

Regards,

Tim Murphy

Harrisburg, PA :)
 
Mackinaw said:
What's the serial number? If it's above 500,000, you have a F-1n (second generation model). If it less than 500,000, you have a first generation F-1.

If there's no film in the camera, look at the date code stamped in ink in the film cassette chamber. That will tell you the year and month it was made.

Jim B.
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276580
code is p639
 
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