canon pellix and eos rt

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anybody have one? they look interesting, and would make a cheap rig for a fast fd 28/2 or ef 28/1.8, and would pair up great with a 85/1.8 or 85/1.2! i wonder why dslr makers haven't pounced on the idea when the pellicle mirror seals off the sensor from dust, and any dust that settles on the mirror won't make spots (or would it?). better high iso image quality also alleviates the third stop loss of light. is the pellicle mirror extra delicate or something?
 
ghost said:
anybody have one? they look interesting, and would make a cheap rig for a fast fd 28/2 or ef 28/1.8, and would pair up great with a 85/1.8 or 85/1.2! i wonder why dslr makers haven't pounced on the idea when the pellicle mirror seals off the sensor from dust, and any dust that settles on the mirror won't make spots (or would it?). better high iso image quality also alleviates the third stop loss of light. is the pellicle mirror extra delicate or something?

I think the pellicle mirror degrade over time, so something like that, and will leave a mark on your photo.

http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/canon/fdresources/pellix/index.htm

also check out other high speed cameras from Canon and Nikon (all with pellicle mirrors)
 
ghost said:
anybody have one? they look interesting, and would make a cheap rig for a fast fd 28/2 or ef 28/1.8, and would pair up great with a 85/1.8 or 85/1.2! i wonder why dslr makers haven't pounced on the idea when the pellicle mirror seals off the sensor from dust, and any dust that settles on the mirror won't make spots (or would it?). better high iso image quality also alleviates the third stop loss of light. is the pellicle mirror extra delicate or something?

The viewfinder is darker, too. All the high ISO settings in the world won't save you if you can't see anything through the finder in a dark theatre, which is where a 85/1.2 would actually be useful. The Pellix finder is a dark hole that will make you cry for a Nikon F finder, let alone a quality rangefinder.

Dust getting on the mirror is worse than dust on the sensor...the mirrors in the RT and Pellix are excedingly thin and are very, very fragile, so they are harder to clean than a sensor. Good luck finding parts anymore if you scratch the mirror, too.

I'd rather have a DSLR like my D1h with really short shutter lag and a little blackout than a piece of delicate plastic that parts aren't availible for anymore. The AF in the RT is absolutly pathetic, too. I like my Nikon CAM1300, especially with a good AF-S lens.

As for a film camera, I'd take my F2 anyday. At least I know if that puppy breaks there are people who can fix it. I also don't mind a little blackout. I learned to anticipate action when I started shooting (insert "poor kid with only a film camera and only a little film money" story here).

Not trying to rain on your parade or anything, there's just reasons why the systems didn't catch on too well outside of Canon (except some ultra high-speed, special-order nikons which cost way too much). There are just better tools for the job.

Have a nice day,
Bob
 
Bobbo is right, the mirrors in these things are the kiss of death. Made of optical plastic (or something like that) they're very easy to scratch. It's probably not an exaggeration to say that 95% of Pellix's out there have damaged mirrors.

That being said, if you get one with a good mirror (I have two), they're defintely interesting cameras to use fully capable of taking excellent pictures. The finders on early Pellix's are dark while late production Pellix cameras are much better (I'm of the opinion that Canon changed the focusing screens on later models). They are the closest SLR to a rangefinder that I know of, though they definitely aren't quiet. They're also relatively cheap and use FL or FD Canon optics, both which can be had for a song today. If you're still interested, it may be worth a gamble, especially if you have an opportunity to check out the mirror first.

Jim Bielecki
 
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