Capture One Pro 8 and fuji RAW files

macjim

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Was thinking about replacing Lightroom with Capture One Pro 8 but before doing so, I wanted to get feedback from anyone who has used it. Does it work well with Fuji RAW files? Can I use external editors such as Iridient Developer with COP8? Any other feedback would be welcomed.
 
I have used C1 with Fuji 100 raw files and it works well. Don't know about the plug ins. I find the tools in C1 more than sufficient, especially the latest release.
 
I have used C1 with Fuji 100 raw files and it works well. Don't know about the plug ins. I find the tools in C1 more than sufficient, especially the latest release.
Thank you for your response. I've been pretty p'd off with Adobe and Lightroom lately due to the errors that have crept in with the last few updates. The last one was to correct a really dreadful bug in the one prior to it. I was left with orphaned photographs and other nightmare problems that had me re-associating images to the correct folders etc for days, and that finally made my mind up to find an alternative.
 
I like the capture 1 interface and the technical side of the RAW conversions, but the colors of the x-trans file are just so garish and I don't know enough about the process to change them to my liking. The fuji profiles in LR are just so good...
 
I trialed C1 6 months ago. Couldn't get on with it, didn't like the excessive contrast and strange skin tones. As Gavin said, LR film profiles work very well and they save me time. I've worked out acceptable sharpening routines starting from Thomas Fitzgerald's recommendations, so have little reason to change.

Isn't consensus that the best alt to LR for fuji x-trans files is Iridient Developer (for Mac users)?
 
Any images that I am going to print from my Xpro always go through Capture One first, then final touch up in Lightroom. It brings out more in the RAF files by quite a margin in my images. I dont use it for general editing as I still find the interface not as easy as lightroom. Worth the effort if going to print though.
 
I've used Capture One from it's first interation and find it very good for the Fuji X-trans files. Here's my Flickr album of Fuji files all processed in C1 and my Mac. https://www.flickr.com/photos/118415917@N06/albums/72157641379925175/with/12698741795/
Nice work. My normal routine is to import my images into Lightroom then edit the ones I want to post to Flickr. These go to Iiridient Developer for any adjustments needed then brought back into LR. Then, the image goes to Nik Softwares Silver Efex Pro 2 for conversion to B&W. Very rarely do I use LR to edit any images, usually it would be to remove dirt spots from my sensor (now cleaned) which shows up occasionally but that's it. LR is mostly used as my library these days. The only real worry about going down the COP8 route is I believe it doesn't allow external editing, is that right? 'So, why do you have Lightroom?' I hear you all say. Well, it began when I was an Leica M9 owner. LR came with the camera so I used it then to edit and catalogue my work. Then when I sold the M9 and eventually moved to Fujifilm and the X-series cameras via the X-Pro 1, I started my current way of working due to LR's problems working with RAF files (I did mean RAF but slipped up last night when I composed this post, to much beer! ;-'). With Apple no longer supporting Aperture it's been relegated to my other images for now as LR is used mainly for my street work (Flickr: srpspaintshop). I'm still humming and hoeing and whether to send my Aperture images to the new Photo app but that's another story.
 
Full external editing is available with Capture One.
that's good to hear. It used to be you couldn't do that but, if I can use my Iridient Developer and Nik Software with it , then that's great.
Been working my way through my LR library ruthlessly deleting images that are due, no longer wanted etc and transferring images to Aperture so that I can sort through them too. All I have to do now is figure out which lrCat my version of Lightroom is using (I have an absolute mess with multiple catalogues and lrCat after years of upgrades) so it'll be trial and error by moving one by one to the trash to see which one is it. Then, I can watch what I'm doing to ensure I don't end up in the same mess again.
 
Well, I took the plunge and bought COP8 and crossed my fingers, and anything else I could, and gave it its first wee hurl. To say it was as black as the proverbial in Calcutta was an understatement and even darker than Lightroom but it was also a little familiar too, as it reminded me of Aperture (add and remove tools in the same way). The first thing was to move the tools adjustments over to the right side as in Lightroom then, I tried the photo previews at the bottom too but, moved to the left for now. Then, I imported some images that I'd taken and saved in Lightroom to the experiment with, from my SD card.
This is where the first bit of confusion arrived and the first doubts too arrived... Had I made a big mistake in splashing the money with trying the trial first? The image edited was dark and a bit unsharp and the highlights were blown too. What editing done was a disappointment and a cause for my doubts but, slowly, I began to figure it out. Save edits wasn't like Lightroom's but via a 'button' in the menu bar. But where was my means to edit with an external editor: by accident I found the way and the sense of relief was noticeable when I saw Iridient Developer, Silver Efecs etc all awaiting use.
So, images deleted and a clean catalogue awaits the first fresh images shot in anger today for the new regime to start: Lightroom will still be there and in need of some housekeeping (don't get me started on why, plus Aperture is at this time a dumping ground for all that is being removed from Lightroom) then, Aperture will need sorting before it too gets cleaned up before transferring to the new Photo app: all images.
So why would I spend the money on another image editing software instead of sticking with a know and tried work flow? Well,, for one thing, COP8 is very similar to Lightroom as it has the ability to import and catalogue my images. But I hear you so why, well, Adobe has been on Royal pain in the posterior with their constant screwing up. If its not Flash, it's Lightroom and the last two updates to Lightroom finally nailed LR's coffin for me. I was left with orphaned images and missing photographs which, with a lot of work, I got back or at least the ones I was aware off that I had. The last thing I need is to create work for myself and LR has done that for me: create unnecessary work.
Part of the troubled was done to my own failings in the way I allowed it to upgrade each catalogue with each LR upgrade. LR3,4,6 were reasonably trouble free with each one creating a new upgraded catalogue with a corresponding number 3,4,5 but when LR6 came along, this didn't happen and that is where I fell down on the job. Then other user cock ups... Forgetting to plug in the external HDD before firing up LR resulted in extra catalogues being made before realising the mistake (I know, take me out and shoot me) but when the last updates screwed up (not the users error this time) that was the final straw for me. So here's hoping this move will be a good one... All I need now is a plugin for COP8 to allow me to export to Flickr as I could with LR without needing to export to Lightroom to export to Flickr: ahem.
So, have you jumped ship and gone to Capture and do you know of a plugin for Capture to export to Flickr? :-]
 
I still use Adobe. I have built a set of skills with it. I have not found anything that can replace photoshop (although I don't use it for most images). At least with my current skills, getting things done is easier in LR.

But even without much skill, COP 8 generates much better translations from RAW into an image. Challenging white balance situations are easier to get to a good skin tone solution quickly. It is also much quicker to achieve a good black and white conversion of a large number of images. Getting to outstanding still takes more time, but a decent print can be had more quickly.

Highlight and shadow recovery is much easier with believable results. Yes, you can get there in LR, but with challenging files, a simple slider often does it quickly and easily where LR might take a lot of manipulation of multiple tools.

There are fewer resources to learn COP 8, but the company makes a number of videos available for free.
 
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