Cinestill 800 - remarkable

My Jupiter performs very well with other films, so in this case, it was the film. The sunlight here is extremely harsh in the summer though and the photo in question is selected to show what can happen, but not all shots was like that. Contrast did suffer a bit though, its logical with the missing anti-halation layer and bright, sunny days, just like highlights on Cinestill 800. I could process the shots to be more normal, but that is telling only half the story.
First shot on that review shows the blooming and second the contrast issue. Note the extreme highlight on the rest of the shots there as well, where the red blooming shows quite clearly.

Further down in my blog you see the 500T shots, shot in the rain though, which creates it's own effects around highlights ^^

After trying both Cinestill-variants, I made my choice, and I picked the original. ^^
Vision3 cine-stock cost 1/10th too, so money saved, but quite a mess to develop.

If people like Cinestill, that's completely fine, just sharing my experience and views.
 
Yes, the antihalation layer removal causes halos, but I embrace those. I use it for those halos. I think everyone who uses this film is well aware of the halos.
It defines and separates this film from every other one on the market.

If you don't like the halos, pick any other film.
:)

Ah makes sense. I forgot that the Remjet coating also acts as the anti halation layer for those cinema films.

When I was looking at the results in my latest video with the 800T I did notice the highlight blooming. I wasn't too partial to the color of said highlights especially with the amount of color correction needed to bring the film back to normal but I do agree that it gives a different look compared to the still films out there on the market.
 
Just sent off my first couple of rolls for processing. Used a TX-2 so the shots will be panoramic. Looking forward to seeing the results.
 
I really like that film but expensive!

I like it too. I've recently been made aware of the red "halos" around bright highlights, which I do see in your example as well as many of mine.

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Shot my first roll of Cinestill 800 last night. Interesting film! Unlike Fuji Superia 400, it doesn't seem to like being over exposed. Will have to experiment with that a bit more. I do love the results when the exposure is right though.









 
But the only time I have ever seen it is with your images. Perhaps the lens is at fault? Haze will do that.
Here is a really nice review of Cinestill 50 by Ray Larose:
https://www.raylarose.com/words/cinestill-50d-film-review
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Only time?! There is massive blooming in the very first picture of the review.

Anyway, Vision3 500T @ iso1600, ECN-2 developer:








Before, I've usually shot Provia 400X pushed to 1600 or Superia 1600 when I needed a fast film. 500T is as good as Superia 1600 and better than pushed 400X. It has even a bit more speed developed as standard C-41 if you don't mind cross-processing.
 
Cinestill 800T No filter

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Excellent work. Love the way the brown leather appears with it. I also don't use filters with it as that can be corrected for in PP so why lose a few stops of light doing so? And this also makes it much easier to use with an SLR.
 
This isn't cross-processing per say. ECN2 is a modified C-41 process-the extra step is the removal of the backing that goops up a standard C-41 processor.

Cross-processing would be processing this film in E-6.




Yeah, but there are long term stability issues with cross processing
 
This isn't cross-processing per say. ECN2 is a modified C-41 process-the extra step is the removal of the backing that goops up a standard C-41 processor.

Well, you really should try it then and see for yourself that ECN-2 is not just C-41 + remjet removal. It IS cross-processing.
 
This isn't cross-processing per say. ECN2 is a modified C-41 process-the extra step is the removal of the backing that goops up a standard C-41 processor.

Cross-processing would be processing this film in E-6.

ECN-2 is a completely different formula to C-41.
It uses CD-3 as it's active colour developer, which is also the active colour developer of the E-6 process.

The ramjet removal part of the ECN-2 process has no impact on the colour development of the film.

Using C-41 for Kodak Vision / Cinestill is cross processing, and gives somewhat false colours, and long term dye stability issues.
Although obviously for most people this is the only viable option for processing this film.

-tc
 
Shot my first roll of Cinestill 800 last night. Interesting film! Unlike Fuji Superia 400, it doesn't seem to like being over exposed. Will have to experiment with that a bit more. I do love the results when the exposure is right though.










fantastic! makes me want to try this.
 
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