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Just thought of this. What does $1200 of travel get you?
arrested?
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Roger Hicks
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Just thought of this. What does $1200 of travel get you?
In most of Europe, driving, living as cheaply as reasonably possible, eating picnics some days, 2* and 3* hotels, 8-12 days on the road for two. A week in a gite in the Pyrenees, out of season, on the bike or in the small car, self catering, probably comes out at just over $1000 (725€) or
On the other hand, what good is a $1200 camera if you don't shoot anything?
Cheers,
R.
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Roger Hicks
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I never liked the pile of dirty clothes I have to deal with after the trip.
B2 (;->
Dear Bill,
Take the digital approach. By the time they're dirty, there's bound to be something better available. Throw 'em away and buy something new.
Cheers,
R.
shashinka-ichiban
写真家 一番
I had to whore myself out a few years ago between pay checks working as a tech writer for a solar manufacturing company. And hearing Fuji state delays due to higher demands tells me one thing I learned from the process engineers years ago.
The fact that Fuji had not placed a firm ship date or release date outside of Japan, coupled with the fact that Fuji clearly knew by the reactions at both PMA and CES what the demand for this camera would be ahead of time, I think they did a slow early production of which Japan got to work out the kinds in their production flow.
Once they got the growing pains of the process worked out and initial production QA settled then go for full production. I do not believe for a minute this is overwhelming production, but is rather more of trying to iron out the production floor schedule and process logistics.
The fact that Fuji had not placed a firm ship date or release date outside of Japan, coupled with the fact that Fuji clearly knew by the reactions at both PMA and CES what the demand for this camera would be ahead of time, I think they did a slow early production of which Japan got to work out the kinds in their production flow.
Once they got the growing pains of the process worked out and initial production QA settled then go for full production. I do not believe for a minute this is overwhelming production, but is rather more of trying to iron out the production floor schedule and process logistics.
BillBingham2
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I was at a hotel a couple of months ago and thought to have my clothes laundered mid way into the trip. It would have cost more than the clothes were worth.
Laundromats are very fun places to watch/met folks when traveling. Problem is the time, though it's fun to figure out how not to reck your clothes if you do not speak or read the language.
Perhaps that’s the answer, travel in your old clothes and buy new on your way back and leave the old on the.......
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BillBingham2
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I had to whore myself out a few years ago between pay checks working as a tech writer for a solar manufacturing company. And hearing Fuji state delays due to higher demands tells me one thing I learned from the process engineers years ago.
The fact that Fuji had not placed a firm ship date or release date outside of Japan, coupled with the fact that Fuji clearly knew by the reactions at both PMA and CES what the demand for this camera would be ahead of time, I think they did a slow early production of which Japan got to work out the kinds in their production flow.
Once they got the growing pains of the process worked out and initial production QA settled then go for full production. I do not believe for a minute this is overwhelming production, but is rather more of trying to iron out the production floor schedule and process logistics.
+1
Work the kinks out closer to home where you deal with support and press issues easier.
B2 (;->
monochromejrnl
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In most of Europe, driving, living as cheaply as reasonably possible, eating picnics some days, 2* and 3* hotels, 8-12 days on the road for two. A week in a gite in the Pyrenees, out of season, on the bike or in the small car, self catering, probably comes out at just over $1000 (725€) or
On the other hand, what good is a $1200 camera if you don't shoot anything?
Cheers,
R.
+1 - all the gear in the world won't make a fondler a photographer... as with all gear obsessions, this too will pass...
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+1 - all the gear in the world won't make a fondler a photographer... as with all gear obsessions, this too will pass...
so now i'm a fondler?
BillBingham2
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arrested?
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I do not care what you say, it's $10,000 USD in 20s to get you out of any ticket down here in Chicago. $1200 won't do squat.
You can take that to the bank or your alderman or your ward chief or ............
nikon_sam
Shooter of Film...
I was at a hotel a couple of months ago and thought to have my clothes laundered mid way into the trip. It would have cost more than the clothes were worth.
Back in the early 1990's I was sent to Japan to do a Trade Show...We (a co-worker & I) spent 6 weeks there...It would have been cheaper to buy a Washer & Dryer and give it to someone to do our laundry than what it cost to have the hotel do it...:bang:
monochromejrnl
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so now i'm a fondler?
just a statement to elaborate on Roger's comment - it wasn't directed at you...
do you disagree with the sentiment?
BillBingham2
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monochromejrnl said:......fondler...
Not that there is anything wrong with that.......
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Are we slipping sideways?
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just a statement to elaborate on Roger's comment - it wasn't directed at you...
do you disagree with the sentiment?
i believe that one can fondle and still be a photographer.
weather wise we have much more fondle time than shooting time where i live...unless you happen to like -30 temps to shoot in.
for a creative bunch i am still amazed at how many believe the two are exclusive of each other.
hipsterdufus
Photographer?
Not that there is anything wrong with that.......
Depends on what (or who!
monochromejrnl
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i believe that one can fondle and still be a photographer.
weather wise we have much more fondle time than shooting time where i live...unless you happen to like -30 temps to shoot in.
for a creative bunch i am still amazed at how many believe the two are exclusive of each other.
I didn't say the two are mutually exclusive - just that trading/buying gear for other gear in and of itself doesn't make for a better photographer...
You've asked for advice on a matter that only you know the answer... if you believe the X100 will get you shooting more than the alternatives then go for it... if not then don't... however if your photographic productivity has been primarily dulled by the weather then the X100 won't in and of itself resolve this... only better weather will and that only requires patience, not $1200... I for one have learned that the excitement of new gear wears off pretty quickly and offers very little 'bang for the buck' when it comes to photographic results.. printing on the other hand has been immensely productive and costs relatively little... but obviously YMMV...
it's really not a crisis - especially since you have sold sufficient gear to be able to buy one if you want...
good luck whatever you decide...
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BillBingham2
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.....just that trading/buying gear for other gear in and of itself doesn't make for a better photographer.......
I think it can be an important part of the journey though. I think it's critical that an artist find the right "tool" to work, I know it's helped me forget about the camera and focus on the creative part. Everyone has thier own feeling about this camera or that camera. What works very well for me (a Nikon S3) may not work as well as for you. That's part of why I think the X100 will work very well for Joe. I think it will handle like and give him the control you find on a his Epson or any of the film cameras he's had over the recent years.
There are a lot of aspects involved with becoming a good photographer. I would warn many who are new getting too wrapped around which camera but there are many of us older types who might enjoy the journey of trying this camera and that as the progress along thier quest of fun, knowledge, capability and creativity.
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gavinlg
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Just wait till a local store gets on in, and go and try it! I think if you have spent more than a week or 2 desiring it you'll eventually end up getting it anyway. The subconscious works like that...
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i'm on an email list to be notified when they come in...will be sure to check it out in person if they last.
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