Collapsible Summicron

[Platinum RF]

What are your thoughts on the qualities of a clean collapsible 50mm/2 Summicron?
>Soso to Ok

It came after the Summar and Summarit and before the rigid Summicron, so where does it "fall" optically?
>yes

Does it have a "signature" [whatever this word means] of its own?
>Not sure, the OOF is not as good as DR rigid

Is it a lens that is meant for B&W film more than color film?
> On color kind of warm tone

Is the collapsibability a myth of an advantage or or is a pocketable camera worth consideration?
> yes, buy it if it is cheap, you like cheap do you? professor?

Is such a lens in M mount worth between $275-$375 these days?
>> nah, offer $170

Is a rigid Summicron different optically from a collapsible Summicron?
>> to my eye they are better

Is a collapsible Summicron in LTM different optically from the lens in M mount?
>> no

There are so many questions on my mind
>>keep asking you get get lots of different answer like your students.

 

[Platinum RF]

The problem of collapsible is if disassembled by shoes maker type amature DIY, the first element has a metal rign to give a space will affect the accurate of lens focus, id not cheked on the autocollimator suring the re-assembling, it will be off.

 

[Vics]

My family paid $379 for mine at KEH, but I think it must be a very fine example. no scratches or fogging. Very much like EX+
Vic

 

[former member]

I posted some comparison shots between the two on the Leica forum.

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica...apsible-summicron-type-i-rigid-summicron.html

I had the Type I Rigid CLA'd by Essex, and did the Collapsible Myself.

 

[ampguy]

my example

my example

is a 121... ('54?) collapsible, M-mount.

The early ones changed glass ~1953, probably around 105xxxx. The 115x example that I have has different coatings than the later ones. The later ones have bluish coatings. My best is in the 13x range.

 

[raid]

> yes, buy it if it is cheap, you like cheap do you? professor?

I recently bought a Heliar 50mm 3.5 101 set and a Pentax Limit 43mm 1.9 lens, and I am in the process of buying a 75mm 1.4 Summilux and maybe the 35mm 1.4 Summilux. These are not "cheap".

 

[helen.HH]

Having had a 1958 DR cron (which was LOVELY)
and now a 1956 Collapsible (Pristine Glass & Body)
The Collapsible wins my Heart & Eye...Its Fab
Sharp & yet a Beautiful subtle falloff ...B&W Rocks

haven't tried color yet but
tend to think it would be like a watercolor...
and I am no longer in pursuit of any other Cron 😱😀

 

[helen.HH]

M6 / collapsible / of Eric...

 

[former member]

The Summar strikes me more as "Watercolor".

The Collapsible Summicron: priceless.

Collapsible Summicron-M 5cm f2, wide-open on the M2, Fujicolor 200. Perfect Glass.

 

[helen.HH]

collapsible / Eric took of a passerby on the street

collapsible / Eric took of a passerby on the street

 

[BTMarcais]

Collapsible Summicron, Hp5+:

My first leica lens, and still my favorite.

-Brian

 

[helen.HH]

BRIAN: Wow, Gorgeous Color & Light in that angelic Portrait of your Daughter

BTMarcais: Beautiful Enchanting landscape

 

[helen.HH]

my bus ride w/the collapsible

 

[BTMarcais]

BRIAN: Wow, Gorgeous Color & Light in that angelic Portrait of your Daughter

BTMarcais: Beautiful Enchanting landscape

You know... i was going to say something about him being a boy, and thanks for looking up one of my other photos... but I just realized you meant Brian Sweeney's daughter, not my son Timothy (who I also have some pictures of...) 🙂
(since I'm a Brian too)

Here's a picture of Tim w/ the collapsible summicron too:

🙂

(thanks for the comment on the landscape too helen...)

-Brian

 

[helen.HH]

BTMarais: Timothy is certainly a Handsome Little Man
and in YOUR Shot
the collapsible renders light & Falloff with such MAJESTY

 

[BTMarcais]

Thanks helen. right now tim is sitting in my lap dividing his attention between a bottle, and my computer keyboard. Which means this post is taking about 10 minutes to type... 🙂

I love the expression of the girl on the bus.

Here's another couple (non-Tim) Collapsible Summicron pictures for all... (and then it's back to playing on the floor for me...)

-Brian

 

[mark-b]

I won't get anything less than a condition 9.5 (B&H rating), so it's between $280 and $320.

 

[Disaster_Area]

I've had my eye on the collapsible cron for a while...anyone know if it will completely collapse on a Bessa R3A? I've heard that some of the collapsible won't work at all, or only collapse half way...

For the ones that only collapse partially... what is blocking the collapse inside.. not the shutter I hope 🙂

 

[Austerby]

Excellent work using this neglected lens. One came attached to my M3 at the time of purchase but was essentially thrown in for free as it was in such a poor condition - heavily scratched and hazed. I used it for a few shots but the results were almost enough to put me off using the M3 at all. I realised later that it could be quite a special lens, and it is after all the original companion to my M3, so I've recently sent it off to be cleaned and refurbished. I've not got it back yet but I'm now very much looking forward to using it and seeing if I can get something such as the quality of these shots from it. Thanks for sharing.

 

[former member]

The Summicron collapses completely on my Bessa R2. The Summitar does not quite make it. The travel on the Summicron is much shorter than the Summitar or Summar. My Collapsible Nikkor 5cm f2 also works easily on the Bessa R2.