Compute-O-graphy

Ororaro said:
Yes, I am an untalented iphone-O-grapher.
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Belittling a phone device does not insult the device. It simply illustrates your attitudes. Belittling yourself in jest also does nothing but illustrate your attitudes.

To make Art with any camera requires that you think of the camera, whatever it is, as a tool with which to make Art: you have to learn it, figure out how to get what it can do, and then practice using it and applying your artistic vision to its use.

If you think of your iPhone as a piece of junk that you use to make quick, thoughtless snappies and invest no effort into making it do what it can do, all you'll ever get with it are thoughtless snappies. If, however, you invest the time to learn its camera, how it behaves and how to make it do what you are looking for, the iPhone will transform into a serious photographic tool and you will make satisfying photographs with it.

This is the same for *any* camera. What the camera uses as a recording medium is one of the least important factors in assessing what it can do. ALL great photography depends upon the photographers' vision and skill, not the cameras they use.

Up-thread you went on with a half a dozen photographs of boxes of paper and chemistry. Why? Do you think that showing the world a couple of lockers full of photographic paper and chemistry means something? All it really says is that you've amassed a lot of photographic consumables that you'll likely never get to the end of. Rather, show us all a dozen excellent photographs that you've made with all that stuff. That will do more to win our affection for your photography, and your opinion, than any amount of film and developer and paper you might have in the closet.

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Godfrey said:
Belittling a phone device does not insult the device. It simply illustrates your attitudes. Belittling yourself in jest also does nothing but illustrate your attitudes.

To make Art with any camera requires that you think of the camera, whatever it is, as a tool with which to make Art: you have to learn it, figure out how to get what it can do, and then practice using it and applying your artistic vision to its use.

If you think of your iPhone as a piece of junk that you use to make quick, thoughtless snappies and invest no effort into making it do what it can do, all you'll ever get with it are thoughtless snappies. If, however, you invest the time to learn its camera, how it behaves and how to make it do what you are looking for, the iPhone will transform into a serious photographic tool and you will make satisfying photographs with it.

This is the same for *any* camera. What the camera uses as a recording medium is one of the least important factors in assessing what it can do. ALL great photography depends upon the photographers' vision and skill, not the cameras they use.

Up-thread you went on with a half a dozen photographs of boxes of paper and chemistry. Why? Do you think that showing the world a couple of lockers full of photographic paper and chemistry means something? All it really says is that you've amassed a lot of photographic consumables that you'll likely never get to the end of. Rather, show us all a dozen excellent photographs that you've made with all that stuff. That will do more to win our affection for your photography, and your opinion, than any amount of film and developer and paper you might have in the closet.

G
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Cool story, bro.

I don’t have anything to show because I’m not really good at this photography thing. At least, not as good your photo of a car, which is excellent by the way. Were you sitting while photographing it? Bench park, or stroller?

Why did I show off my paper collection? Because a forum member asked me what I was doing with my exposed films… and naturally, I had to answer with a visual proof.

Do you shoot film, or is your upgrade to iphone-O-graphy definitive?
 
Ororaro said:
This particular dedicated fridge, among two more freezers, contains at least 4650 sheets of photographic paper.

Oh, I have my moments where I feel like a total idiot for liking this stuff too much. But somehow I never reached the absurdly absurd level of summer 2003 when I spent so much time chimping that when I got home after a 2 month vacation I threw away my cf cards without even downloading them.
The digifart was insane.


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OK....
But I didn't asked if where is any hoarding habits, sorry to call it as it is.

I still have no word where is correlation between taking exposed film and three refrigerators with bw darkroom paper and some kodak chemicals in-between.

Does anything happen between film and this aging paper with bunch of chemicals?

To make it simple. Is where any transfer from film to those papers happens?

Where, how often, in which amount?

Please, be honest :)

I would like to have this information, to provide valuable, 2025 film vs digital answer, based on my huge experience with high rate exposures, pictures at both media.
 
This is compute-o-graphy, shows the error in an under-performing pixel on my M Monochrom, used to restore the value not just interpret it.
Okay, I'm qualified to decide what is compute-o-graphy. Been doing stuff like this since 1979.

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Retro-Grouch said:
Meetup! Given how this thread is going, may I suggest for our next RFF meetup:
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During Covid- when it was really bad, I suggested to a local/small/independent movie theater that they rent out to small groups to see movies. $100 got you the theater. You could bring your own Blu-Ray, or request a recent movie from them.
I rented it for me and Nikki to see Trolls 2.
The idea kept them in business.

How come no one else is putting up images processed in Fortran? THAT is compute-o-graphy.
Some of these topics are so old here on RFF, just don't take them so seriously.
 
JohnGellings said:
It can be, I have seen all of those things in photos and paintings in museums. I side with Godfrey here.
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I'm in the middle.

At many museums, art galleries they have upper floors. Usually they are kept for rotation. Usually for something called as contemporary.
Very often it is filled with dross. Including crappy photos.
Connectionists exhibitions.
 
Sonnar Brian said:
During Covid- when it was really bad, I suggested to a local/small/independent movie theater that they rent out to small groups to see movies. $100 got you the theater. You could bring your own Blu-Ray, or request a recent movie from them.
I rented it for me and Nikki to see Trolls 2.
The idea kept them in business.

How come no one else is putting up images processed in Fortran? THAT is compute-o-graphy.
Some of these topics are so old here on RFF, just don't take them so seriously.
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All of my FORTRAN-processed images are in the archives of NASA/JPL, and are publicly accessible. Of course, finding them is a bit tricky ... I've long since forgotten the project numbers, etc. But they were all made in the period from 1984 to 1988.

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Freakscene said:
No one can tell the difference between my Monochrom(e) files printed on silver gelatin paper and my negatives printed on the same paper, that's my observation.
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I don't have refrigerators full of silver gelatin paper, but I should still have some stash left.
How digital files are printed on silver gelatin paper? Is it done via inkjet printed negative?

The spotting of difference is individual. One photog from rangefinder.ru printed his M8 BW photos and same forum members were not able to differentiate them from darkroom prints.
 
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