Ezzie
E. D. Russell Roberts
If the M9 is what you want - get it - but know full well that the moment you have forked out $6000+ for it - Zeiss.Nikon/Sony etc will announce a new rangefinder with full frame and more Mp etc at 2/3rds of that price. This is Murphy's Law!
Sage words indeed!
Which is why the waiting game never works. Whenever somehting pops up that rings your bells, get it, with no regrets. Or else you'll go mad contemplating, what if, what's next, will there... the list goes on..
Talex
Established
Which is why the waiting game never works. Whenever somehting pops up that rings your bells, get it, with no regrets. Or else you'll go mad contemplating, what if, what's next, will there... the list goes on..
The waiting game works if you are a rational profit maximizer, and use depreciation in your favor. M8 is now around $2500 or lower, which is a 50% depreciation in 2 years. If I wanted the M8, now is a great time to pick one up.
However, not everyone has the same priorities. For the working pro or the Leica enthusiast with money, they can justify the time premium of buying the M9 now, then that is also the right decision (without these guys, then there would be no secondary market).
My original point was simply this: the true cost of any camera (especially digital) includes depreciation costs. My D300 that I purchased last year already lost about 25% of its value. If you decide the depreciation cost is worth it (as I did for my D300), then more power to you.
Fuchs
Well-known
I'd sell only the SP and buy a used M8 or M8.2. I'd keep the S2 with a 50mm, just to use it from time to time and because its current selling price would not mean that much of a difference towards the M9 full price.
N
Nikon Bob
Guest
If you have the money then get it and that becomes an even greater factor the older you get as you have less time left to enjoy it.
Bob
Bob
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Many amateurs do buy and sell cameras (just look at the classified section on RFF), so depreciation is relevant to many amateurs.
Amateur photographers, or amateur camera dealers?
Cheers,
R.
Talex
Established
Good insight. At some point for someone who is active in selling, the line between amateur and amateur camera dealer is blurred.
Amateur photographers, or amateur camera dealers?
Cheers,
R.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Good insight. At some point for someone who is active in selling, the line between amateur and amateur camera dealer is blurred.
Been there, done that. Don't do it any more. But that doesn't mean I look down on those who do. As I say, been there, done that...
As I've got older I've focused more on (a) buyng cameras that do what I want, rather than cameras I 'can afford' and (b) concentrating on what the cameras can do rather than what they can't.
No camera can do everything, but surprisingly many cameras can do more than I can. If I hadn't bought so many cameras I 'could afford' I'd have had the money to buy (rather fewer) cameras that did what I wanted but 'couldn't afford', because I wouldn't have spent all my money on cameras I 'could afford'...
Cheers,
R.
Mael
Established
If you can afford loosing money, get the M9 that will lost half its value in one year.
If you want to keep your money, do not sell the Nikons, they will get value through the years, and they will continue to work correctly the next twenty years.
Major difference between film and digital is that film cameras do not become obsolete. Digital does.
Another thing is, do you think you're a good photographer ? Do you think this camera will give you better pictures ? What's better ? A better camera will not give you a better eye.
If you want a really modern digital, do not use a manual focus rangefinder originally designed in the fifties and in which a digital sensor has been put in. Buy an Autofocus top of the line camera, buy a D3X, not this...thing.
If you want to keep your money, do not sell the Nikons, they will get value through the years, and they will continue to work correctly the next twenty years.
Major difference between film and digital is that film cameras do not become obsolete. Digital does.
Another thing is, do you think you're a good photographer ? Do you think this camera will give you better pictures ? What's better ? A better camera will not give you a better eye.
If you want a really modern digital, do not use a manual focus rangefinder originally designed in the fifties and in which a digital sensor has been put in. Buy an Autofocus top of the line camera, buy a D3X, not this...thing.
My 1992 DCS200ir still works. Obsolete?
Well, the new Digital cameras seem to have eliminated the sprocket holes in the CCD's...

Well, the new Digital cameras seem to have eliminated the sprocket holes in the CCD's...
enasniearth
Well-known
m9 lust -- perhaps well deserved
m9 lust -- perhaps well deserved
so -- the m9 is perhaps $8000
about 5 nikon sp
or 12 nikon s2 .
everything i read about the m9 says it is all that .
so the sp , s2 and $5000
but no film --
after 7000 actuations you are ahead after that .
i want to believe in digital -- many of my co- conspiriters do
you need lenses - a better computer ,
digital has the immediatecy film lacks - with film you are not sure untill
the process is complete --
sometimes the mystery is the porthole into understanding .
m9 lust -- perhaps well deserved
so -- the m9 is perhaps $8000
about 5 nikon sp
or 12 nikon s2 .
everything i read about the m9 says it is all that .
so the sp , s2 and $5000
but no film --
after 7000 actuations you are ahead after that .
i want to believe in digital -- many of my co- conspiriters do
you need lenses - a better computer ,
digital has the immediatecy film lacks - with film you are not sure untill
the process is complete --
sometimes the mystery is the porthole into understanding .
I'd keep at least one of the Nikons... they are so damn cool. Sell something else to fund the M9.
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