Considering the RX1's status as the first FF compact ... where is it?

I was actually hoping they would release an rx10 (apsc) w/ a 40 fov (27) pancake.. Doesn't look like that will happen now 🙁

Gary
 
Keith said:
Terrific reason to spend twenty eight hundred dollars!

You're supposed to be setting an example for the rest of us lost souls. 😛
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Your not a lost soul.. Your in the land of widelux and foveon 😛 is there another gas itch coming?

Gary
 
Keith said:
The Fuji X100 by comparison created a landslide of interest and continues to do so without the need to be full frame ... did Sony miss the mark?
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They are reportedly selling well above expectations, if not as well as the X100 or X100S, but that's not surprising given the price difference.

I have both and the X100S is my EDC camera due to:
  1. Better AF (the RX1 is even slower than the original X100)
  2. Thinner lens means the camera is jacket pocketable
  3. The Fuji lens does not exhibit the severe barrel distortion of the RX1's Sonnar.

That said, the build quality on the RX1 makes anything short of a Leica feel as insubstantial as a Lomo, macro is much better on the Sony and the low-light performance is simply the best in any camera, period.
 
GaryLH said:
Your not a lost soul.. Your in the land of widelux and foveon 😛 is there another gas itch coming?

Gary
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Possibly a lens ... but not much else. I'm sure I read somewhere that Sigma are making a 24-70 f2 in Nikon mount.

Have you heard anything about that or is it just wishfull thinking?

And ... one of the Wideluxes is about to head of to Precision Camera Works in the US for a CLA. That won't be a cheap exercise! 😱
 
Keith said:
Possibly a lens ... but not much else. I'm sure I read somewhere that Sigma are making a 24-70 f2 in Nikon mount.

Have you heard anything about that or is it just wishfull thinking?

And ... one of the Wideluxes is about to head of to Precision Camera Works in the US for a CLA. That won't be a cheap exercise! 😱
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There's been talk about multiple (awesome) Sigma lens recently...135 f1.8, 24-70 f2, and 24 f1.4. I think I saw a picture somewhere that shows half a barrel, so it probably exists.

Most likely more expensive than all the 24-70s out there, though...
 
Keith said:
Possibly a lens ... but not much else. I'm sure I read somewhere that Sigma are making a 24-70 f2 in Nikon mount.

Have you heard anything about that or is it just wishfull thinking?

And ... one of the Wideluxes is about to head of to Precision Camera Works in the US for a CLA. That won't be a cheap exercise! 😱
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I remember reading the rumor about it as well. I cant remember which rumor site right now. Ever since I bought the sd1m, I have got this site book marked now to keep track on what is going on w/ Sigma lenses.

http://www.scoop.it/t/sigma-lens-news

W/ the metabones speedbooster my 24-85f2.8-4 becomes a 24-85f2-2.8 which is fast enough for me in terms of aperture.

Given u a lot of your pay jobs are in such low light conditions I thought u would go for a fix focal length 1.8, but a 24-70f2 is probably more convenient, especially when it gets hectic.

Wow sending widelux all the way over here - ouch.

Gary
 
LeicaFoReVer said:
I am sure that someone will hack the RX1 and put M lenses on soon 🙂

http://petapixel.com/2013/04/02/sigma-dp-cameras-hacked-to-play-nicely-with-leica-m-lenses/
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The DPx mod was a bad idea - those cameras are not like an NEX5 or X-pro1, they have absolutely no provisions for a fully manual lens. They won't bump the live view level when you stop down, so focusing at anything but wide open is almost impossible. For slower lenses around f4, the LCD view is permanently dark and laggy. The modified camera is also limited to a full electronic shutter with considerable lag.

The DP sensors also has problems with longer lenses that aren't tailor-made for it. When you go over 50mm, corners exhibit massive vignetting. Under 35mm the same color cast issue as the NEX7 shows up. All these issues, despite the fact that the sensor is even smaller than APS-C.

All in all it sort of works with a few fast lenses between 35mm and 50mm...just saying.
 
Despite being full frame and having a great lens, it is over-priced... like Leica over-priced IMO. In a few years, most compacts will be like the RX1 and will be priced more sensibly. Sony took a chance and I applaude them for that.
 
To me, it seems a bit of a trophy camera, just like super speed lenses are trophy lenses for manufacturers. Something for Sony to beat its chest about, and roar out loud to other camera makers about. That's not to say its without its market, just that its a very small market, and an offering Sony probably makes a loss on overall. Of course, there is great value to Sony's reputation as a camera maker, something that is intangible but no doubt of invaluable benefit when it comes to selling Sony and its non-trophy camera wares to photographers.
 
A full frame fixed lens camera in a cellphone centric market is pretty much a technical/design piece. Sony/Zeiss are rumored to be working on faster pdaf and full frame E-Mount lenses. So, we collectively wait for the next generation of Sony FF.
 
YYV_146 said:
I played around with one a few weeks ago during a local photographer party. IQ is excellent, better than a D600/35 1.4G combo and certainly better than an X-e1 with the fuji 35 1.4.
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Outside of Fuji, no one that I am aware of has seen output from the still unreleased Fuji 35/1.4.

Have you?

I mean, the sensor in the RX1 is probably a bit better, but why draw a comparison with a lens that no one has seen or used? Especially when the Sony lens requires digital correction of its distortion, and the Fuji lens (if the superb 14/2.8 is any indication) probably will not…
 
I think that cameras that cost more than $1000 will all be FF in a few years time. Not necessarily because we need FF, but more for the "marketing" reasons. It will be increasingly harder to sell crop sensor based cameras when at least one competitor has a reasonably priced FF alternative.

And I think that we will see a > $5000 camera with a bigger than 35x24 sensor from Canikon.
 
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