rover said:
I just survived an ebay trip. No Contax or Kiev heading my way. Alex Photo has 3 nice black Kiev 4as listed.
I don't know about Contax.. I've handled one a few days ago, and it
is a bit smoother than either of my Kievs, but the price....
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I don't know... Actually, ever since my M2 went to CLA, I've been shooting with my other cameras - a bit with Yashica Lynx 14e (nice and bright VF/RF, but big and heavy), a bit even with my Nikon EM and 50/1.8 (light, but I hate the automation and mirror slap!), and lately just my Kiev 4A.
I find the Kiev closest to the "feel" I get from my Leica - sounds preposterous, I know, but it's actually not big or heavy, fits into a bag/backpack nicely, and is very quiet. The only drawback is the squinty finder - although the RF focusing is very precise, due to its long RF base.
So, to anyone contemplating a Contax, I'd recommend trying out a Kiev first, as see how you like it. Buy them from trusted sources (some were already mentioned here on RFF, like Fedka), and see how you like them. I prefer the ones without the meter, since they make for a more compact street shooters.
I sincerely recommend also doing the DIY modification of the leather case - makes a world of difference once you can detach the top part, which no longer dangles from the bottom when you shoot....
I also think that the general opinion is that Russian lenses in Kiev mount are usually a bit better than their LTM counterparts, and you can indeed find some gems in Kiev mount. In short, you can have a very nice RF shooter for way below $100. And, compared to Canonets and other classic fixed-lens RF cameras of the Seventies, this one has interchangeable (and cheap) lenses.
BTW, Jupiter 12 is generally cheaper in Kiev than in LTM mount... And a late Jupiter 12 (black finish) can be great! BTW, look for one with blueish/violet colored coating...
The only drawback I noticed with my Kiev glass (i.e. J12 and J8) is that it has rather strange bokeh - "pointy" OOF sources of light are rendered as triangles instead of circles towards the edges of the frame
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In short, as funny as it may seem, it took a Leica M2 to make me appreciate my Kiev 4A more
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Denis