Coolscan and VueScan

[jarski]

hi. I have VueScan 8.4.48 and Nikon CoolScan V ED.

what I do wrong, or how to prevent following scans ? this happens every now and then, scanner pics up the image area in between the two frames from film 🙁

this must be some basic scanner software issue, but I just dont get it :bang:

my settings are pretty much defaults in VueScan, I've only modified resolution and changed default JPG to TIFF.

 

[peterc]

I find Vuescan does this quite a bit with my Coolscan IV ED as well. Sometimes ejecting the strip and reloading helps. You can use the frame offset to move the film so that the frame is properly scanned. The other option is to use the film strip holder.

 

[planetjoe]

This has definitely happened to me using my Nikon LS-50 (Coolscan V ED). When it occurs, I usually re-scan after ejecting the strip and re-loading it.

Regarding Vuescan, Ed Hamrick has posted at least a couple updates that feature fixes for frame alignment issues with Nikon scanner models so perhaps it's a hardware issue. Keep an eye out for further updates, or simply send Ed an email. Not certain he'll answer it, though.

That said, I often find that this occurs when I've trimmed the filmstrip (I use strips of 5 frames to fit in my pages/binders) too close to the edge of a frame; in this case, Vuescan and the Nikon can't use "frame detection" to see where the frame begins.

In that case, I reverse the strip and feed from the other end.

A little more detail: I use the SA-21 film strip adapter, but not the FH-3 "film strip holder" designed for use with the MA-21 slide adapter. Perhaps that'd be a better way to do things. the FH-3 is pretty cheap, I think.


Cheers,
--joe.

 

[rich815]

Use the Frame Offset to adjust this and get your framing right. The way I understand it Vuescan uses the sprocket holes to find the framing and where the image is in relation to the sproket holes varies from camera to camera and sometimes within the same camera the space from frame to frame is not always consistent and exact. Also, if you clipped and cut the neg through the middle of a sprocket hole at the edge of the beginning of the strip it can "confuse" the software and throw things off. I use many types of cameras and thus typically have to adjust the Frame Offset a couple times and re-Preview to see if I got it. BUt then it's usually good the whole roll. Vuescan is SO much better than NikonScan in my opinion that this small extra step is completely worth it.

 

[jarski]

I use default film adapter that came with scanner, didnt even know there are alternatives. thanks for the info.

I've also noticed that re-scan, perhaps a bit trimmed film can help. maybe too narrow space in between frames tricks VueScan not to recognize the new frame starting ? my F100 makes a bit wider space between frames than M3. I think M3 scans cause troubles more often, least for me.

what units is the "Frame offset" ? I tried google but could not find answer.

 

[kaiyen]

If I remember correctly, the IV and probably 4000 were the last ones that came with the film strip holder. I think now they only come with the auto-feeder, right?

There is no way to solve that other than the frame offset. I preview each frame anyway and never batch scan, so I get the first frame right and go from there. But frame offset is the only way.

The only mod. Hamrick has done that I know of relating to dealing with frames is for medium format and the 8000/9000.

 

[visiondr]

Alan, you're right about the film strip holder (FH-3). I should be getting a Coolscan V in the next week or so and it does not come with the holder while my IV did.

 

[tony tree]

Hello, i used to have this problem and used the frame offset, but it was not correct all the time. There is now a fix specifically for this problem on Nikon and the latest versions have corrected it.
Regards, Tony