RayPA
Ignore It (It'll go away)
Welcome to this critique thread. Please read the purpose statement and the guidelines/ground rules regarding participation.
Purpose
The primary purpose of this thread is to provide a forum where photographers can give and receive constructive criticism on one another's photographs. By setting up some basic guidelines we hope that this thread will provide a forum where the give and take of honest constructive criticism can help us become better photographers.
Guidelines/Ground Rules
The thread has very specific rules regarding participation. The one basic rule is that you cannot provide criticism on an image or comment in a critique thread unless you also have an image posted. To post an image to this thread you must be a participant. Participation in this thread is limited. Here are the guidelines and ground rules for participation:
• Participation in this thread is limited to 5 photographers
• Participants join the thread by posting their intention. You can simply reply with your intent to join by posting something like: "I'm joining," "I'm in," or just state your name
• Joining is on a "first come, first served" basis. The first 5 to reply become the participants.
• Please, only join this thread if you are able post an image within 24 hours of joining.
• Once the thread has 5 participants, no other photographers can join or participate in the thread
• Once the thread is full of participants all photographers will upload their image(s)
• Please abide by any thematic requirement (e.g., landscape, portrait, etc.)
•The number of photos for each participant is limited to one
• Photographers attach photos as thumbnails (no inline images or links)
• Photos should be standard screen resolution (72~90) and the longest side of the image approximately 10 inches in length. NOTE: New size limitations restrict attachment sizes to 150kb. If you need help sizing your image for the web see THIS pdf.
• Photographers post their images supplying titles (if any) and other pertinent information (the amount of information should be minimal)
• Photographers can only comment on their own images and reply to comments only when everyone else in the thread has posted their comments on the image
• Every participant must comment on every photo (except their own—initially)
• Every participant must make at least two comments, one positive comment, and one constructive criticism (which is actually two positive comments)
• Once every photographer has commented then a free flowing discussion begins. It is at this point that every photographer can comment on their own work and reply to comments, ask questions, etc.
• The participants decide when the thread closes.
What's a Guest?
A guest is a participating member of the thread who does not need to post a picture. The guest is an exception to the guideline that states all participants must post an image. Guests provide criticism just as the other participants do. Guests are also encouraged to act as moderators, to encourage elaboration, to guide discussion and examine latent concepts brought about as a result of the discussion.
Note: Not all threads will have a guest. See the title/subject line for the '+Guest' designation.
If you'd like to participate in a critique thread and need some ideas about how to proceed with viewing images critically, you may find this thread helpful:
How do you look at photos
You can also provide feedback on critique threads here:
Critique Feedback Thread
If you need help sizing your image for the web see:
dcsang's pdf
Remember: Please do not provide criticism on an image or comment in a critique thread unless you also have an image posted.
This thread is now active, please follow the guidelines if you'd like to participate! Have Fun!
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Purpose
The primary purpose of this thread is to provide a forum where photographers can give and receive constructive criticism on one another's photographs. By setting up some basic guidelines we hope that this thread will provide a forum where the give and take of honest constructive criticism can help us become better photographers.
Guidelines/Ground Rules
The thread has very specific rules regarding participation. The one basic rule is that you cannot provide criticism on an image or comment in a critique thread unless you also have an image posted. To post an image to this thread you must be a participant. Participation in this thread is limited. Here are the guidelines and ground rules for participation:
• Participation in this thread is limited to 5 photographers
• Participants join the thread by posting their intention. You can simply reply with your intent to join by posting something like: "I'm joining," "I'm in," or just state your name
• Joining is on a "first come, first served" basis. The first 5 to reply become the participants.
• Please, only join this thread if you are able post an image within 24 hours of joining.
• Once the thread has 5 participants, no other photographers can join or participate in the thread
• Once the thread is full of participants all photographers will upload their image(s)
• Please abide by any thematic requirement (e.g., landscape, portrait, etc.)
•The number of photos for each participant is limited to one
• Photographers attach photos as thumbnails (no inline images or links)
• Photos should be standard screen resolution (72~90) and the longest side of the image approximately 10 inches in length. NOTE: New size limitations restrict attachment sizes to 150kb. If you need help sizing your image for the web see THIS pdf.
• Photographers post their images supplying titles (if any) and other pertinent information (the amount of information should be minimal)
• Photographers can only comment on their own images and reply to comments only when everyone else in the thread has posted their comments on the image
• Every participant must comment on every photo (except their own—initially)
• Every participant must make at least two comments, one positive comment, and one constructive criticism (which is actually two positive comments)
• Once every photographer has commented then a free flowing discussion begins. It is at this point that every photographer can comment on their own work and reply to comments, ask questions, etc.
• The participants decide when the thread closes.
What's a Guest?
A guest is a participating member of the thread who does not need to post a picture. The guest is an exception to the guideline that states all participants must post an image. Guests provide criticism just as the other participants do. Guests are also encouraged to act as moderators, to encourage elaboration, to guide discussion and examine latent concepts brought about as a result of the discussion.
Note: Not all threads will have a guest. See the title/subject line for the '+Guest' designation.
If you'd like to participate in a critique thread and need some ideas about how to proceed with viewing images critically, you may find this thread helpful:
How do you look at photos
You can also provide feedback on critique threads here:
Critique Feedback Thread
If you need help sizing your image for the web see:
dcsang's pdf
Remember: Please do not provide criticism on an image or comment in a critique thread unless you also have an image posted.
This thread is now active, please follow the guidelines if you'd like to participate! Have Fun!
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RayPA
Ignore It (It'll go away)
New attachement file size restriction of 150kb. See the guidelines for a link to dcsang's pdf, if you need help sizing your image for the web.
Biggles
My cup runneth amok.
May I participate?
kmack
do your job, then let go
I just got done scanning a bunch of film, I'll get into this one.
formal
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I'll join too
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Veteran
I'm in too.
RayPA
Ignore It (It'll go away)
I don't know if you saw my first post, but see the guidelines for new limits on file size for attachements.
kmack
do your job, then let go
RayPA said:I don't know if you saw my first post, but see the guidelines for new limits on file size for attachements.
Darn, I had this great 4x5 scan at 3200dpi only 3.5 Gig,
Thanks pointing that out.
RayPA
Ignore It (It'll go away)
Ted, I got the e-mail for your reply, but I don't see the post here did you delete it or did..."the powers that be"
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Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
I counted four. If I'm #5, I'm in. If not, then this is not typed here
Biggles
My cup runneth amok.
ampguy
Veteran
I deleted it
I deleted it
It really doesn't belong here since I'm not in this critique thread, but I'll post when I find an appropriate place for that discussion.
I deleted it
It really doesn't belong here since I'm not in this critique thread, but I'll post when I find an appropriate place for that discussion.
RayPA said:Ted, I got the e-mail for your reply, but I don't see the post here did you delete it or did..."the powers that be"
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Veteran
formal
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kmack
do your job, then let go
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
kmack
do your job, then let go
I've done a couple of these and this is one of the strongest groups of photos yet. Some good work here guys!
Here are some of my quick and dirty impressions.
Biggles-
Good use of the wire as a diagonal composition in counterpoint to the regular rectangular shapes of the bricks and window. Nice tone and focus. You capture the metallic sheen of the razor wire very well. Very nice mixture of textures.
To be critical, It may be interesting to take this one again in a heavy fog or with a tighter depth of field. More focus on the wire and minimize the background a little.
As a weird kind of aside, try flipping the image on the horizontal plane, for me (right handed) the composition flows better from left to right rather than high right to left.
Really though, no need to change anything. It is a strong image as it is.
George-
I like the repetition of the rectangular elements and the use tone from darker to lighter. The mirror image doors are a good catch, nice eye. It seems a little soft somehow, I would have liked to see it a little sharper, however this may be an artifact of the smaller digital image. However, as strong as the image is,
it seems a little sterile some how. It would be nice to have a good central image to give it some focus. I find it reminiscent of a empty stage.
Formal-
I have not been to the Vatican since the 70's but I remember it being rather difficult to shoot in. Exposure seems to be spot on. The sisters spilling out across the floor, you captured a real moment. The perspective given by the lens you used helps emphasize the vastness of the building. Good work.
Gabriel M.A.-
Well done use of repeating elements receding into the background.
I think a tighter crop and about 10 to 15% less gamma, to get better shadow detail.
Here are some of my quick and dirty impressions.
Biggles-
Good use of the wire as a diagonal composition in counterpoint to the regular rectangular shapes of the bricks and window. Nice tone and focus. You capture the metallic sheen of the razor wire very well. Very nice mixture of textures.
To be critical, It may be interesting to take this one again in a heavy fog or with a tighter depth of field. More focus on the wire and minimize the background a little.
As a weird kind of aside, try flipping the image on the horizontal plane, for me (right handed) the composition flows better from left to right rather than high right to left.
Really though, no need to change anything. It is a strong image as it is.
George-
I like the repetition of the rectangular elements and the use tone from darker to lighter. The mirror image doors are a good catch, nice eye. It seems a little soft somehow, I would have liked to see it a little sharper, however this may be an artifact of the smaller digital image. However, as strong as the image is,
it seems a little sterile some how. It would be nice to have a good central image to give it some focus. I find it reminiscent of a empty stage.
Formal-
I have not been to the Vatican since the 70's but I remember it being rather difficult to shoot in. Exposure seems to be spot on. The sisters spilling out across the floor, you captured a real moment. The perspective given by the lens you used helps emphasize the vastness of the building. Good work.
Gabriel M.A.-
Well done use of repeating elements receding into the background.
I think a tighter crop and about 10 to 15% less gamma, to get better shadow detail.
sf
Veteran
gabriel M.A.
What are these? Tying posts? I really like the look of this image. I mean the tone and DOF are very beautiful. I only wonder about the right side of the image where it is blurry and dim. Is this a photo with a non-conventional camera? From a compositional standpoint, I can't criticize at all. I like it.
kmack:
This image is all about the person at the bottom of the stairs with the arm out to the other. the gentle tones and textures are a nice framing, and the lighting is very perfect. Because of the way the banisters/railings play in the composition, I can't offer my opinion there but to say that it looks good to me. I have attached my variation on the cropping. Just another perspective.
formal:
the first thing that hits me when I see this, besides the obvious "wow, the Vatican is a pretty nice building", is "why do the sisters all look as though they've lost their tone? The sister to the far right has strong tones, but the ones in the foreground have unusually flat tones, especially considering the tonality of the ornate thing in the background and the ceiling. I think the composition is perfectly balanced geometrically, but I would consider some modification of the tones of the foreground sisters. I have attached my version - mine is too harsh, but you can see what I saw.
Biggles:
Looks good to me. It all looks good. No criticism. the blades really pop out, thanks to the tonal character of the background, and the composition gives meaning to the scene that would be lost if you were to crop off the far right and left sides. Good work.
What are these? Tying posts? I really like the look of this image. I mean the tone and DOF are very beautiful. I only wonder about the right side of the image where it is blurry and dim. Is this a photo with a non-conventional camera? From a compositional standpoint, I can't criticize at all. I like it.
kmack:
This image is all about the person at the bottom of the stairs with the arm out to the other. the gentle tones and textures are a nice framing, and the lighting is very perfect. Because of the way the banisters/railings play in the composition, I can't offer my opinion there but to say that it looks good to me. I have attached my variation on the cropping. Just another perspective.
formal:
the first thing that hits me when I see this, besides the obvious "wow, the Vatican is a pretty nice building", is "why do the sisters all look as though they've lost their tone? The sister to the far right has strong tones, but the ones in the foreground have unusually flat tones, especially considering the tonality of the ornate thing in the background and the ceiling. I think the composition is perfectly balanced geometrically, but I would consider some modification of the tones of the foreground sisters. I have attached my version - mine is too harsh, but you can see what I saw.
Biggles:
Looks good to me. It all looks good. No criticism. the blades really pop out, thanks to the tonal character of the background, and the composition gives meaning to the scene that would be lost if you were to crop off the far right and left sides. Good work.
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Veteran
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Biggles
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I think the razor wire has great potential as an abstract image, but I feel that there is too much else going on in this image. There is really nothing for my eye to "rest" on. Cropping the edges would help, but ideally I think the bricks should be out of focus.
shutterflower
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I like the way the image has vertical symmetry, but is divided horizontal into three distinct areas. Also the vertical symmetry is not perfect and my eye moves back and forward between the two sides looking for differences.
kmack
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This is a very common subject, but I think it has been handled very well here. In particular, the out stretched arm is intriguing. I might have cropped it a bit on the left and bottom.
Gabriel
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When I first saw the thumbnail the image looked like a line of crosses with their reflections and I was a bit disappointed my initial expectations were not realized. However, it is a well-composed image and I do like it, even though I cannot figure the purpose of the posts. I think the top right hand corner and the branches on the ground are a bit distracting.
David
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I think the razor wire has great potential as an abstract image, but I feel that there is too much else going on in this image. There is really nothing for my eye to "rest" on. Cropping the edges would help, but ideally I think the bricks should be out of focus.
shutterflower
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I like the way the image has vertical symmetry, but is divided horizontal into three distinct areas. Also the vertical symmetry is not perfect and my eye moves back and forward between the two sides looking for differences.
kmack
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This is a very common subject, but I think it has been handled very well here. In particular, the out stretched arm is intriguing. I might have cropped it a bit on the left and bottom.
Gabriel
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When I first saw the thumbnail the image looked like a line of crosses with their reflections and I was a bit disappointed my initial expectations were not realized. However, it is a well-composed image and I do like it, even though I cannot figure the purpose of the posts. I think the top right hand corner and the branches on the ground are a bit distracting.
David