froyd
Veteran
What do you guys think, crop or no crop on the images below. This would be for a 11x17 print.
PS- the cropped version would get the same PP as the original image to get the tones more neutral/warm.
PS- the cropped version would get the same PP as the original image to get the tones more neutral/warm.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Definitely uncropped for me. 
Jubb Jubb
Well-known
Cropping's cheating.
Looks better without crop anyway.
Looks better without crop anyway.
Joosep
Well-known
goffer
Well-known
uncropped... although I didn't notice the human element until I saw the cropped version.
anjoca76
Well-known
Uncropped for me too.
lynnb
Veteran
definitely uncropped
farlymac
PF McFarland
I like the uncropped version only because of the person coming out the door. Other than that, I think the foreground is wasted space. Just my personal taste. The crop that I would suggest is a square one of just the wall.
PF
PF
Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
Cropping is most certainly not cheating. I often shoot with a Hasselblad, and love the square format, but sometimes I want a rectangular image, and I crop with no regrets. The final image is all that matters; God will not damn you to Hell for cropping, and those who see your work do not care.
That said, I prefer the uncropped version of this image.
That said, I prefer the uncropped version of this image.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
If cropping is 'cheating' then so is using a lens longer than the natural human visual perspective.
Jubb Jubb
Well-known
hah, i am a purist. not meaning to upset anyone, just my belief. I could never crop an image.
froyd
Veteran
If that matters, I could not get closer to the subject with my feet (I was at the edge of a balcony) but I would have if it had been a possibility or I would have switched to a longer lens if I had one.
However, my main subject was just the wall with lines and smoke vents (similar to farlymac's idea)...I just could not get close enough. Then the bell boy (it's the rear of an hotel) came out for a smoke and I made the best of my situation by including the human element. Unfortunately, i found it was lost in the capture...too much going on, I think.
The crop was an effort to restore some balance... enlarge the wall space above and make the human element more visible.
Still, interesting to know you all preferred the wide version. Should have listened to my wife in the first place and not wasted everybody's time. I'll go report the results of the poll and prepare myself for the "I-told-you-so".
However, my main subject was just the wall with lines and smoke vents (similar to farlymac's idea)...I just could not get close enough. Then the bell boy (it's the rear of an hotel) came out for a smoke and I made the best of my situation by including the human element. Unfortunately, i found it was lost in the capture...too much going on, I think.
The crop was an effort to restore some balance... enlarge the wall space above and make the human element more visible.
Still, interesting to know you all preferred the wide version. Should have listened to my wife in the first place and not wasted everybody's time. I'll go report the results of the poll and prepare myself for the "I-told-you-so".
Pablito
coco frío
A purist, or a blind follower of the camera manufacturer who chose the aspect ratio of the camera you bought?
It's like the fallacy of the clean plate club; despite what grandma said, it's ok to leave some food on your plate if you're full.
igi
Well-known
no crop for me as well... that image just looks worthy of inspection and curiosity when uncropped.
Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
A purist, or a blind follower of the camera manufacturer who chose the aspect ratio of the camera you bought?
It's like the fallacy of the clean plate club; despite what grandma said, it's ok to leave some food on your plate if you're full.
Exactly. If you keep eating after you're full, you'll get fat. If you base your work's merit on such silly technical requirements, you likely have little to say as an artist, so you try to make your work sound important by trumpeting things that have no bearing on the image itself.
tuanvinh2000
Well-known
no crop works better for me in this case.
Jubb Jubb
Well-known
A purist, or a blind follower of the camera manufacturer who chose the aspect ratio of the camera you bought?
It's like the fallacy of the clean plate club; despite what grandma said, it's ok to leave some food on your plate if you're full.
well i shoot with an xpan majority of the time, so why would i crop? the aspect ratio of the camera is the reason i bought it.
Moto-Uno
Moto-Uno
Seems almost humorous to hear about eating too much and becoming fat from a resident of the USofA! Having said that,someone must of had a gentler grandmother that would let
them leave the table with food on their plate,( weren't you supposed to feel guilty about
someone starving in Africa?)
Regards,Peter
them leave the table with food on their plate,( weren't you supposed to feel guilty about
someone starving in Africa?)
Regards,Peter
Samouraï
Well-known
Sometimes cropping moves the center of the lens away from the center of a photo, and this bothers me. And unless you frame with cropping in mind, I tend to prefer original size.
Oh yeah, and uncropped for me too. Though I didn't notice the guy at first; bet it plays better printed.
Oh yeah, and uncropped for me too. Though I didn't notice the guy at first; bet it plays better printed.
batey_1020
Well-known
No crop for me. When i looked at it i saw the white wall then lead to the dumpster and the human interaction.
On the cropped one i just get distracted by the wall and dont know where to look.
On the cropped one i just get distracted by the wall and dont know where to look.