Cuffed, fried and stuffed!

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

Seems like anytime that some photographer gets hassled, someone eventually blames Bush for it. See the attached video of a kid getting cuffed, fried, and stuffed at a John Kerry event for asking a question. Maybe he doesn't handle himself the best, but they are pretty much pestering him from the start of it.

They're lucking they didn't have a riot on their hands. If that guy had any friends with him that would have stuck up for him, this could have gotten ugly fast. If you watch closely there is only one 'real' cop there who is big enough and acts decisively enough. All the others are vertically-challanged and allow it to get out of hand.

I watched the video thru my Leica CL's viewfinder to make this on topic.

Fight the Power,
Mark
 
steamer said:
So what's your point and why did you feel this needed to be brought to our attention?
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Seems reasonable to me to bring to our attention yet another example of how democracy is an illusion. This is an example of exactly the sort of authoritarian macho mentality that stops reasonable people expressing themselves through their photography.

And the OP did make it relevant by watching it through his CL's viewfinder :rolleyes:

Regards,

Bill
 
Watching the video, I felt disgusted and I hated the cops. I saw them as mere stupid goons. In all fairness however, we (or at least I) don't know what the student's behavior was before the footage began. Perhaps he was being genuinely disruptive long before then and perhaps the cops and organizers had been very patient with him. Perhaps he has a history. It's dangerous to leap to conclusions based on a few minutes of footage. Things might be presented totally out of context.
 
J J Kapsberger said:
Watching the video, I felt disgusted and I hated the cops. I saw them as mere stupid goons. In all fairness however, we (or at least I) don't know what the student's behavior was before the footage began. Perhaps he was being genuinely disruptive long before then and perhaps the cops and organizers had been very patient with him. Perhaps he has a history. It's dangerous to leap to conclusions based on a few minutes of footage. Things might be presented totally out of context.
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Quite. And that is why over-reaction is so dangerous. Nobody covered themselves in glory here. It reminded me of the incident last year when a elderly man was ejected from the Labour Party Conference for daring to ask a reasonable question.

Regards,

Bill
 
The questioner seems to be a jack-ass, but that aint illegal. You take questions from the audience at a University, get ready for some odd stuff.

I think it was Bob Kerry who visited my college back in the early 90s and this one lady wouldn't shut up about her health care story. I knew more about her health by the end of her rambling question than I knew about mine. Nobody tasered her.

Kerry, I think (and I don't really like the guy), comes off pretty well, but if you watch the video closely, the two cops who first try to start to move in seem to go at the orders of a guy standing there in a suit, my guess a Kerry assistant.

The guy seemed to be trying to get some attention and he got it. I saw somewhere that he is a journalism student, what a resume booster.

Mark
 
After seeing all the youtube videos, I blame it all on the female cop.

man-ish looking female cop = your worst nightmare.
 
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Looks alot like Abbie Hoffman all over again. Anyone who thinks we have free speach in this country needs to think again. Like the Black Sabbath song says, one day the WAR PIGS will get their just reward.
 
memphis said:
is it possible, that this really has nothing to do with freedom of speech? some people are just begging for this to happen to them --- freedom of speech is a widely misunderstood concept....
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I totally agree with this.
 
memphis said:
if the other side had done it, people would be screaming to impeach our president as he had knowledge or gave the order...

is it possible, that this really has nothing to do with freedom of speech? some people are just begging for this to happen to them --- freedom of speech is a widely misunderstood concept -- - everybody is willing to scream that their rights and art are being silenced by facists... face it, you have the right to open up a paper and print most anything (with the exception of libel / slander ) ... disorderly conduct, abusive conduct, etc will get you zapped every time --- but think about the paparazzi --- they are invasive, intrusive and go way beyond the bounds of civilized society and then can sue when their target fights back....

"Bro" may have been begging for 50,000 volts to the jewels...

The headline on drudge read "Don't tase me, bro!" - sounds like bill and ted or a reject from half baked....
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The argument that the guy was asking for it might be more acceptable if he were asking kerry questions that were totally out of the blue. The fact was, he asked questions that were in-line with Kerry's political career.

The cop moved in when they "decided' his questions were "un-friendly" to the senator. Unfriendly conversation is not inciting a riot. That is simply BS. Those hacks were "campus cops" for a reason.

Back in the college days, my friend was chased by a campus cop in a police vehicle and the chase resorted to the vehicle jumping a curb onto the sidewalk and finally catching up to my friend (who was running on foot) and ticketed him for underage intoxication. This occurred on a Saturday night at a major Big Ten college campus. What did the cops expect?

These campus cops are probably worth as much as they get paid. That is very telling.
 
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I don't know if those were 'real' cops or security officers for the university. Smacking around a cop roughing up your buddy is a Bozo No-no legally, but private security officers I don't know. All I know is if I go to a candidate forum and ask a question, I'm not getting cuffed while I'm still concious.

Sounds like this guy was part stunt, part real. I can't believe they went to the taser so fast, on a college kid with his underwear hanging out on his shorts.

Part of me wished they used tasers on the candidates during those debates. "I'm sorry, that answer was too full os spin, ZZZZSSSSAAAAP!"
 
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