sammysbar
Newbie
Thanks for taking the time and posting your results. Appreciate it very much.
palec
Well-known
The Nokton seems to flare a lot for such modern lens. I've seen similar flare in examples of multicoated version, too.
Ororaro
Well-known
There is obviously a problem with focus on the first pics. The Lux is front focusing...
Matt(1pt4)
Established
So is the CV lens first or second in all these shots?
wontonny
Well-known
It's the top one
lemos
Established
from what he said, I'd say first
Didier
"Deed"
The CV is sharp wide open, but seems less sharp at f4 than f1.4...
Color, bokeh and flare comparisons go clearly in favor of the old 'Lux...
Hmm?...
Didier
Color, bokeh and flare comparisons go clearly in favor of the old 'Lux...
Hmm?...
Didier
LCT
ex-newbie
The CV is sharper at f/1.4 and f/2 where the 'lux is smoother and shows some 'glow' at same apertures. Different beasts at fast apertures obviously. From f/2.8 onwards, differences look less obvious. Leica colors are brighter but sharpness, contrast and bokeh look very close. In black and white, flare aside, i see very little differences from f/2.8 to f/11 to a point where i could mistake one for the other. But my experience is limited to the R-D1 and i'm but a newbie with the CV that i acquired 3 days ago.
Didier
"Deed"
After a second look at the pictures, I must absolutely second Ray. It looks indeed more like a focus shift issue. Couldn't imagine a modern asph lens like the CV 35 Nokton to get so less sharper when stopping down, as well as the pre-asph 35 Lux, wide open, can not be that soft in the middle of the picture.
On both Epsons I had (R-D1) or still have (R-D1s), all Leica lenses I tried, did front focus at close up, if older (Summicron collapsible) or newer (35 Lux asph). The Nokton 40 did not, but I never checked if it starts to back focus after f=4.0 like the 35 Nokton obviously does on these pictures. Interesting, my Canon 50/1.2 as well as the Canon 35/2 do not front focus wide open, close up.
Once more, I come to the end, that one should let adjust all his lenses and all his M-bodies together, from the same person at the same time, to be absolutely shure about any focusing issues. I know from former professional Leica users that they did so. Once a year.
Didier
jasperamsterdam
Established
I was looking to buy this 35 nokton, in MC. But as i understand, its only useable wide open, and not working properly in everyday conditions in the daylight.. bummer! Is this Front focus issue stopped down, easy to (get) fixed?
Matt(1pt4)
Established
That's what I thought, which is why I don't understand palec's last comment. It looks like flare is a much larger problem for the lux than it is for the CV. I'm curious because the CV seems to suffer from some interesting flare issues:
Hexar RF, CV 35 1.4 SC, TriX
Hexar RF, CV 35 1.4 SC, TriX
kram
Well-known
LCT, thanks for posting the shots -(I only just found the thread) and was considering the Nokton. Do you know if it was focus shift from f4 onwards in the opening shots. At f1.4 -2.8 it looks great, and then just treads water.
LCT
ex-newbie
Cannot answer sorry as i haven't noticed any focus shift with any of my (many) lenses before i did the tests above at short distance to do like everybody. I even did not know what focus shift could be one or two years ago to tell the truth. It is perhaps because i don't use charts and rulers to become demoralized and i don't shoot closeups with WA lenses so that at longer distances focus shift must be compensated with DoF presumably. Just a guess from my part but frankly i don't care to explain what is basically a non-issue for me. Sorry to be useless here but if you're not after the Leica 'glow' or the harsh contrast of some modern lenses you will hardly find out that good a little fast 35 at the price of the Nokton SC IMHO.
