CV, future collectible?

ravid905

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I recently got my ordered 40 from Cameraquest, great guy, everyone has there good words to say, and so do I. The thing I noticed is the box the lense came in. It almost seems as if the box was designed to open easily, no tearing at the boxes, in order to be able to keep the box in mint condition. Was this something the great Mr. Kobayashi had intended?
 
Dunno about Mr Kobayashi, but, well, if you ask me, CV gear will be collectible... in about 10-15 years.. But its "collectible" price will hardly match that of a Leica, so why bother? Shoot with it... The box.. What's in a box.. The only boxes I liked were the old Nikon gold boxes, the glossy ones. The new ones definitely look cheaper. The Canon boxes are nothing to look at, as well

I bought my R2 without even a lens mount cap.. don't care
 
I've never been one to try and keep something in mint condition, I buy things intending to be around when they fall to pieces. Lately, alot of the things I have bought are older from the fifties and sixties. One thing I noticed is that they seemed to put a little more effort into presentation and packaging. My retina tele-xenar 200mm for example, comes in a leather case, with places for rear screw in filters, with an importation card, with the serial number hand written on it. Whereas my Maxxum 7, came in a box, wrapped in plastic and with a blank warranty card. Maybe because I'm youngish, 30, it just seems that more care was put into things before I was born. Now everything is packaged on a system created by an efficiency consultant so as to produce the most streamlined product.

The last time I had the feeling of care, was when I bought my last pair of made in England ( now China ) Doc Martins. I always liked seeing the inspected by so and so sticker on the tongue of my boots. I didn't mind paying 180 bucks a pair because, in even the most basic sense, I felt that there was an actual personal touch to it, not just some faceless, possibly intered political prisoner, making them. I just felt when I looked at that box, how it opened, it seemed like someone actually put some thought into it, that it was actually decided that this simple little piece of packaging may just be a little easier to open. Unlike dvd's and cd's. Thanks for listening to someone who may have a little nostalgia for something that happened before I was born, or might possibly be all in my head.
 
Amazing how many of us routinely toss the nice boxes that things come in... and just as amazing are the prices others will pay to get an empty box for a used item they've bought. Same with manuals which get separated or lost. Offering an item for sale, you'll typically get a better price if you include the original box and related materials. To me it also implies the seller is more likely to be careful and organized...
 
I've worn Clarks shoes for years. Made in England, sometimes Portugal. Beautifully crafted. Dunno where they're made now. For boots (hiking) Vasque. Made in Italy. The pair I bought six years ago I cannot kill. The leather case for my 1956 Rolleiflex is a study in subdued elegance.

When my father died many years ago, among his effects I found a little card that came with the new Schwinn bicycle he bought me for Christmas when I was twelve (again, many years ago). Written on the card was "Guaranteed for life." It didn't say whose life was thus guaranteed...
 
Boxes go into the recycle bin.

Seriously. If I bought a S3-2000 tomorrow, the boxes would be broken down and in the recyclables bin the next day. Foo on those who collect but do not use. _I_ have no use for them 🙂 I'd want a minimum of 156 rolls of film through it the first year...

OTOH, I kept the box my Luigi case came in but that was because the box was da*n near as cool as the camera case was 😀

But I really do think that I'd be strongly tempted to simply stomp on a box that was getting stupid money on ebay just because I find that kind of behavior so disgusting.

William
 
wlewisiii said:
But I really do think that I'd be strongly tempted to simply stomp on a box that was getting stupid money on ebay just because I find that kind of behavior so disgusting.

William

Then you could sell it there as "slightly shop worn" 😀
I have saved the boxes my CV stuff came in because they are sturdy and a nice size and I might need them to pack/ship stuff in. If I ever sell any thing 🙄
Bought a Bolsey B2 that still has its orig Box and manual and I've saved that in case I decide to part with the camera--figure I might get a couple more $ than other-wise.
Rob
 
ravid905 said:
Maybe because I'm youngish, 30, it just seems that more care was put into things before I was born. Now everything is packaged on a system created by an efficiency consultant so as to produce the most streamlined product.

Count me in on that (though I'm 34, cough 🙂) This is how I ended up with the LTM system I'm now using. Did some research, handled a Zorki and I was sold. It starts getting expensive, though. I just dropped my 10 year old fountain pen from the table and it broke. In the shop, the €100 pens seemed machine made. Then there was the €260 Graf by Faber-Castell. *ow* for the wallet, *wow* in my hand. Flashed the plastic and I've had a great day writing all silly things that come up in my head.

I need to look for Vasque, I'm getting fed up with the average hiking shoe that falls apart within a year.


Peter.
 
Peter -- here are the boots you need, made in New Hampshire, USA (for the custom boots) or in Germany (for the off-the-shelf versions): http://www.limmerboot.com/opening.html

I save the boxes. Who knows, if I sell the item later, it might add to the resale value, and for the time being it is a good way to store it. I know I get a kick out of receiving a piece of equipment that still has its original packaging. I got a Nikon S2 along with the beautiful leather system case, and inside the case were a couple of Nippon Kogaku silica gel packages. How cool is that??
 
Nah! Much as I want a Pelikan Souveran 405 with its blue and silver stripes, I'm happy with my brass-barrelled Waterman Maestro and my aluminium-barrelled Lamy Safaris. I don't need a flexible nib, and these pens were inexpensive, always start first time and never leak. And cheap to run, in the long term. Great users, ergonomic, leave you in control, nice edge definition, sharp, good bokeh... :angel:

I remember a thread about fountain pens on the other forum.

Of course, this kind of discussion set me off on finding different inks and papers and got me into moleskinerie madness.

I never used to be like this. But ten years ago, if I'd wanted to find out about fountain pens, there'd be one library book and a limited range of pens in a local shop. The internet really does encourage a fascination with trivia and minutiae, but I think it gets people to go out and photograph or write even if they/I do spend half the time in gearhead mode.
 
God, that Omas site! I should have been surprised by such beauty. After all where did Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati, and the Alfa Romeo Disco Volante come from?

But, poor desert rat that I am, must do with my Cross.
 
Penz!!!

Penz!!!

I knew, I knew it...

Guys, we are all mad in the same way. Hooray!
I was an avid fountain pen collector /user several years ago, now the only ones that are left are some Pelikans.
Pelikan m800 - old style, endgraved logo - the best most durable modern pen ever made, imho.. Get it when you find it. The after-1993 versions are OK, too, but very slightly cheaper made.

Pelikan m400 tortoiseshell - beautiful but flawed, has cracks in it

Had an Omas - a beatiful cream Bibliotheque with 14k Superflex nib - the damn thing just fell apart one day, still have the nib though..

Does anyone here remember Frank Dubiel, with his acid comments and DA Book? I loved reading his posts

Oh, the FPH catalogues I still get in the mail.. Don't even get me started on this 😀
 
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