Developer Chemistry Storage

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What's the best method to store film developer chemistry? I've read different things about storing stock solutions vs. storing concentrates.

I have some HC-110 developer that I was just planning on using in "one shot" batches and storing the unused concentrate in the original container. Should I consider investing in some air tight containers?
 
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If you'll be using it within a few months the "syrup" in the original container should be OK even if it's not full. Once you've diluted it it's best to keep it in a full bottle with minimum air. Plastic soda bottles like Coke comes in are great for this purpose. Store them in a closet or similar so they don't get a lot of light.
 
Use an air-excluding aerosol such as Tetenal Protectan. Just a small squirt does the trick as it forms an inert layer over the liquid, preventing oxidation.

There's a similar product available to squirt into wine bottles to prevent the contents from going off.

Nick
 
Soda bottles are made out of a plastic that can withstand the pressure of the gas inside when you shake them. Ever shake a soda when you were a kid and then loosen the cap? They're pretty air tight!. While it's best to fill to the brim or squeeze the bottle slightly the dilute developer doesn't just die overnight! When I was shooting a lot more B&W than I do now I'd mix up a gallon jug of D-76, then just pour what I needed to make a 1:1 solution. The ever decreasing amount of developer left in the jug worked just fine, and it would take a month or more to use it all up.

Some developers, like D-76, actually become MORE active a few days after they've been mixed. In olden times the when penny pinching pros were the main market for photo chemicals the manufacturers published all kinds of information about getting the the most bang for your buck. Now they want you to use (waste?) as much as possible.
 
Storing Photo Chemicals

Storing Photo Chemicals

It is normally best to store the chemistry in a high concentration and dilute just before using. Keep the concentrate in a soda bottle or any other plastic bottle that is #1 (Pet or Pete plastic) as it is very impermiable to air. Add glass marbles to the bottle after each use to bring the level right to the top to exclude all the air. Regards ---john.
 
I use HC-110 and I take 100ml out of the bottle of syrup and partially dilute that each time, and I keep the opened bottle of syrup in the fridge - the diluted extract (1+3.2 - then 1+9 for dil B every time I need it) I just keep in a plastic bottle in the fridge without worrying about it going off. The 1L bottle of syrup I've just finished was over a year old (at least, I first opened it more than a year ago), and the last film I developed was as good as the first.

In my experience, with HC-110, you don't need vacuum bottles, you don't need glass marbles, you don't need inert gas, or anything like that.

My experience with Rodinal is the same, but I can't speak for other developers.

Best,
 
Thanks for all the tips on storage.

This is the first time I've heard about using glass marbles - I love low-tech solutions that work on a budget.
 
I store my stock solution under the sink, I have split my HC-110 into 8oz plastic cough syrup bottles, then use an infants medicine syringe to measure. The D76, I split off into 1 liter sparkling water bottles. The fixer, hypo, and acid stop are all in gallon bottles.

Dave
 
I have used the heavy plastic Ragu jars for storing mixed chemistry with good results, always keeping a layer of Saran Wrap between the solution and metal lid. The food grade plastic is much heaver than the soda bottles and permeability of gas/oxygen is just that much more difficult.

These Ragu jars with handles are also great for mixing and handling the line for roll film developing. The large mouths pour and accept return of the chemistry from the tank quickly and the handles are a relief for arthritic and sometimes wet hands.

I am currently using mostly wine bottles, 750 ml. and 1.5 L. for D76 stock and replenisher, as well as other chemistries, mostly developers and selenium toner. Because I am compounding my own developers, other than the HC-110, I can easily adjust for how much solution I have to store initially, so there is no wasted developer or excess air space.

My personal experience with HC-110 is the concentrate will store well long term in the original bottle without gas top-offs or fillers like marbles, IF the storage temperatures are between 60-75º F. I also use a large syringe to take syrup from the bottle for one-off developing, dilution "H" being what I mix most often from that bottle.

I should also note that I've been cautioned in the past to avoid marbles as fillers because of 'soda glass' reaction with the chemistry, however, it is my understanding that most common glass is in fact soda glass so I'm unsure what the real story is there.

Perhaps someone here has more reliable information as to any pros and cons of the practice.
 
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