agricola
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Hi - I am about to load some XP2 Super. Can it be developed in something other than the C41 process? I think I've seen references to caffenol (?)
many thanks
Dan
many thanks
Dan
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Roger Hicks
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Dear Dan,
Yes it can -- in just about any conventional developer, in fact -- but why do you want to do it?
Cheers,
R.
Yes it can -- in just about any conventional developer, in fact -- but why do you want to do it?
Cheers,
R.
agricola
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Roger
Thank you for replying. My wife Anne and I love your region of France. Is there anything on in Arles this year?
I thought of developing the XP2 myself simply because I am reluctant to have it murdered in a lab. - you know the story.
This whole venture was prompted by some threads I saw here where you and others waxed lyrical about XP2 and BW400CN. So I am going to expose it at 200 and 320 in the Hexar AF, the M4 and the Nikon FE - just to see how it all looks.
And the balance of the answer to your question is that I am now 61 years of age and probably have too much time on my hands 🙂
regards
Dan
Thank you for replying. My wife Anne and I love your region of France. Is there anything on in Arles this year?
I thought of developing the XP2 myself simply because I am reluctant to have it murdered in a lab. - you know the story.
This whole venture was prompted by some threads I saw here where you and others waxed lyrical about XP2 and BW400CN. So I am going to expose it at 200 and 320 in the Hexar AF, the M4 and the Nikon FE - just to see how it all looks.
And the balance of the answer to your question is that I am now 61 years of age and probably have too much time on my hands 🙂
regards
Dan
agricola
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P.S. Can anyone tell me how long and what temp. to use in, say, D76, Rodinal or whatever is the suggested mixture?
Dan
Dan
Roger Hicks
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Dear Dan,
See http://www.rogerandfrances.com/subscription/arles 2009.html for last year's Arles and why we'll be there again in 2010 (hotel already booked and confirmed). There's also a thread about it on my sub-forum here on RFF.
Quite honestly, developing XP2 in anything other than C41 is murdering it worse than a lab would. It's just not designed for it. Take it to a lab (or do C41 yourself -- it's worth it) and use conventional films in conventional developers. I certainly wouldn't wax lyrical about XP2 in conventional devs.
Cheers,
R.
See http://www.rogerandfrances.com/subscription/arles 2009.html for last year's Arles and why we'll be there again in 2010 (hotel already booked and confirmed). There's also a thread about it on my sub-forum here on RFF.
Quite honestly, developing XP2 in anything other than C41 is murdering it worse than a lab would. It's just not designed for it. Take it to a lab (or do C41 yourself -- it's worth it) and use conventional films in conventional developers. I certainly wouldn't wax lyrical about XP2 in conventional devs.
Cheers,
R.
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shyoon
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Hi Dan, I would suggest referring to this website: http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.php. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be much on XP2, with the only decent amount of information for development with Rodinal.
All the best.
All the best.
agricola
Well-known
Roger - thanks. Ok. Nothing other than C41 then! And I will follow that link. Much appreciated.
Seok
Thanks for the link. You wouldn't believe what I paid for two rolls of this stuff just because I became impatient waiting for my order from Freestyle to arrive! Nice rain outside right now, eh? Just took some shots in the full moon on the beach - lovely cumulus clouds.
tks
Dan
Seok
Thanks for the link. You wouldn't believe what I paid for two rolls of this stuff just because I became impatient waiting for my order from Freestyle to arrive! Nice rain outside right now, eh? Just took some shots in the full moon on the beach - lovely cumulus clouds.
tks
Dan
rpj
Grumpy
There is some mention of XP2 being developed in Rodinal in a thread (oddly enough in Roger Hicks subforum). the thread is titled "Justify using XP2 as only C41 film". Matt Alof had an article on his blog describing his method and some scans of results. Unfortunately, he seems to have started a new website without grandfathering the old one. But maybe a Goggle search would turn up something. I remember there were several discussions of the technique, but I cannot ite any at this time. Sorry.
petronius
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There was a talk about this here: http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83378
I did Rodinal development with BW 400CN and several C41 color film brands and was pleased with the results.
I did Rodinal development with BW 400CN and several C41 color film brands and was pleased with the results.
sersi
Newbie
Hi,
I have seen in internet (I have not tried myself yet) that XP2 can be developed in E-6 color slide process, and you will get low contrast b&w slides with a strong blue/cian hue, so it's more like a kind of experiment than a useful combination, but, well, it's an other option to experiment to. It can be done too with Kodak BW400CN, you will get more neutral hues. You can take a look here:
http://www.lomography.com/magazine/competitions/2009/11/22/tipster-of-the-week-reversed-x-pro
Rgds,
Sergi
nathanp
Established
I've tried it in Rodinal because I had a few rolls of expired XP2 Super (exp 2006 or so) and I wanted to see what would happen.
They were taken with a Hexar AF set to 200 ISO. The film was pre-soaked for about 10 minutes in tap water, then developed for 1 hour in Rodinal (1+100) with just an initial agitation for the first 30 seconds. I'm pretty pleased with the results - a few of them are better than my attempts with Tri-X and Rodinal.
They were taken with a Hexar AF set to 200 ISO. The film was pre-soaked for about 10 minutes in tap water, then developed for 1 hour in Rodinal (1+100) with just an initial agitation for the first 30 seconds. I'm pretty pleased with the results - a few of them are better than my attempts with Tri-X and Rodinal.
aldobonnard
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nathan, it's very nice indeed. no grain and deep blacks. as good as C-41 for sure; the only thing if you scan them, having used a normal B&W developer, you might not be able to use the ICE features, or am I wrong ?
nathanp
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I don't think I tried using ICE on them. After discovering that it couldn't be used on black and white film I knid of forgot that it was even possible 🙂
I had another quick look last night and the photos from that roll are quite contrasty - most had the contrast lowered by about -20 in lightroom I think (as well as tweaks like exposure/curves)
I had another quick look last night and the photos from that roll are quite contrasty - most had the contrast lowered by about -20 in lightroom I think (as well as tweaks like exposure/curves)
aeolist
Member
1point4 xp2 stand in rodinal:
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cach...odinal/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=iceweasel-a
is all you need
a pity 1point4 is down
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cach...odinal/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=iceweasel-a
is all you need
a pity 1point4 is down
brooy
observe wait capture
Developing XP-2 using the Tetenal C-41 kit is *extremely* easy. The first time I tried this (with temp exactly 100 F / 38 C etc. all the horror stuff) I was cooking a meal at the same time. Dinner tasted well, negatives were superb. Since then I developed dozens of XP-2's, at normal sensivity or even to 1600 ISO (= just add 1 minute developing time). All quicker than a ride to the lab or supermarket. Recommended!
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