srtiwari
Daktari
Struggling with trying get some smooth tonality, and consistently have large (to me) grain- even compared with other photos on RFF. Haven't quite got the protocol down yet.
Today developed 3 films- 2 Fomapan classic 100, and 1 Legacy pro 400, all shot at box speed, developed in D76 1:1. 10 mins for the Fomapan and 9:30 mins for the Legacy Pro.
Agitation gentle, 10 secs at onset and 5 secs each min.
Water stop
Fixed for 5 mins
Wash water Ilford method.
Permawash 1 minute
Wash again waterPhotFlo drops.
I monitored the temps for ALL the solutions (and water) within 2 degrees.
Scanned about 3000DPI on KM 5400 II as B+W negative.
And the result ?
Looks grainy and "washed out", but highlights look blown, and some shadow detail loss, looks better with some contrast increase, and noise reduction- all in LR3
Can't seem to get this right. Any thoughts on what I might be doing wrong ??
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Today developed 3 films- 2 Fomapan classic 100, and 1 Legacy pro 400, all shot at box speed, developed in D76 1:1. 10 mins for the Fomapan and 9:30 mins for the Legacy Pro.
Agitation gentle, 10 secs at onset and 5 secs each min.
Water stop
Fixed for 5 mins
Wash water Ilford method.
Permawash 1 minute
Wash again waterPhotFlo drops.
I monitored the temps for ALL the solutions (and water) within 2 degrees.
Scanned about 3000DPI on KM 5400 II as B+W negative.
And the result ?
Looks grainy and "washed out", but highlights look blown, and some shadow detail loss, looks better with some contrast increase, and noise reduction- all in LR3
Can't seem to get this right. Any thoughts on what I might be doing wrong ??
100% crop...
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maddoc
... likes film again.
My guess only, slightly to dense negative (over-exposure / over-developed) and / or automatic exposure control can`t deal with it. This is only from my experience with slightly over-exposed negs and auto-setting of the software. About visible grain, all FOMAPAN films that I have used tend to look grainier after scanning than other films ...
sepiareverb
genius and moron
Looks over exposed to me as well- and I've also found Fomapan is grainy even on a cold light head enlarger. I'd say to try bracketing some images on the next roll- so you've got a range of exposures to compare for scanning.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I would agree with over exposure and also that Fomapan is prone to this look. As for legacy pro I always under develop it slightly for optimal scanning output and I'm not convinced that as a film it's that happy in D76. It's nice in Xtol with very little grain and even better in Rodinal IMO, though you do tend to get a lot more grain with the rodinal.
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
Subash,
Overexposure issue aside, I think you have to adjust your expectation about grain. Especially when dealing with scanning silver-B&W films, which usually increases the edge contrast of the grain making it worse than what it would look like when printed on paper in a darkroom.
If you like low grain scans, consider slower film like Adox CHS 25 or better yet, use C-41 B&W films like Ilford XP2 or Kodak BW400CN. These will give you smooth tone progression and low grain. Contrast is lower, but you can boost that easily in photoshop.
Overexposure issue aside, I think you have to adjust your expectation about grain. Especially when dealing with scanning silver-B&W films, which usually increases the edge contrast of the grain making it worse than what it would look like when printed on paper in a darkroom.
If you like low grain scans, consider slower film like Adox CHS 25 or better yet, use C-41 B&W films like Ilford XP2 or Kodak BW400CN. These will give you smooth tone progression and low grain. Contrast is lower, but you can boost that easily in photoshop.