Did an OM winder 2 just hose my OM-10?

[Noll]

Well I recently acquired a Winder 2 on a separate purchase and decided to try it on my very lightly used OM-10.

I loaded batteries, screwed it in, and snapped a few shots. Boy this thing is loud, I'm thinking, but still kinda cool.

Then after the 4th shot, I hear an electronic buzzing, the mirror sticks halfway, and now the advance lever is stuck.

I checked all the batteries - they are OK. Fiddled with everything, took the winder off and fiddled some more. Still no movement in the mirror or levers. Changed batteries too, just in case, but still no movement.

Any help out there on how to fix this or insight to what happened? Thanks...

 

[Noll]

Also should mention that the film counter is only at 31 of 36... and after removing the film still no difference.

 

[John Hermanson]

Sounds like the body wind gears are now jammed in an "out of sync" position. This could have been caused by the faster winding motion of the winder combined with defective gear set in the body. John

 

[Noll]

Thank you for your professional opinion, John. I may open it up and see how it looks inside. If nothing else I'll salvage the prism for my foam-damaged om-1.

Are the gears in an OM-10 less robust compared to the single digit models? Or am I setting myself up for another disaster if I use this cursed winder again on, say, an om-2n?

 

[wblynch]

This is just my opinion...

I personally would not use an auto winder in other than single-shot mode on my OM-10. I feel it would melt the insides quickly. I got an OM-PC and an OM-2SP for parts that seem to have been damaged from over-enthusiastic motor use. (they were cheap and came with good lenses)

I have OM-1md's where I've shot whole rolls in continuous mode, all 36 shots in one push, and they don't seem any worse for it.

 

[DCB]

Any of the single digit OM's will be fine. They are semi-pro to pro level cameras.
All the others are consumer grade cameras.

Peace

 

[Noll]

I think I may have re-synced the gears on my OM-10. Not sure what it was exactly that did the trick, but here is what I did:

I removed the bottom plate, tripod mount, and set the rewind tab to 'R'. I noticed that by pressing arms 2 then 3 (see photo), I could get the shutter to complete its cycle. Though once re-cocked and fired, the mirror again failed to fully return. At which point I used the tip of a jewlers screwdriver to manually turn the gear (1) that coupled with the winder 2. After turning this gear fully I again fired the shutter and manually completed the cycle. After repeating this process a few more times i noticed that the mirror fully returned after firing the shutter! Further clicks of the shutter seemed OK.

Maybe I just got lucky, but the real test will be to put a roll of film in and see what happens. Hopefully it works - it's in perfect shape and would be a shame to scrap it for parts. I hope this helps someone else out there with a hopelessly stuck OM-10!

 

[Ranchu]

Good job, and thanks for the update. I'm sure it will help someone.

 

[wblynch]

Treat it gently and it will reward you for a long time yet

 

[John Hermanson]

Are the gears in an OM-10 less robust compared to the single digit models? Or am I setting myself up for another disaster if I use this cursed winder again on, say, an om-2n?

Bottom wind gears are very similar. 2N is far superior body with no factory defects compared to 10. Main shutter winding gear (not visible in bottom) is plastic compared to metal in all single digit OM bodies. John