Digital insecurity?

[Andy K]

If that was indeed your sentiment, then it's unforunate for you given the choice words and tone you used. I would say that was the spark that started the fire. I did not have a problem with your original post. You ought to learn to be less polemical in your arguments in the future.

That is no justification for the insulting behaviour you displayed. Maybe you should count to ten before you reply in future.

 

[ywenz]

That is no justification for the insulting behaviour you displayed. Maybe you should count to ten before you reply in future.

Less colour please.... 😱 😱 I'll do the same if you promise to as well.

 

[Sonnar Brian]

I have no insecurity where Digital is Concerned.

http://www.openraw.org/comments/?id=734

Just do a hex dump of the raw format, determine the headers, any compression scheme, rows X columns, greyscale, RGB bands, etc, write a FORTRAN, Macro, or C program and look at your images.

Doesn't everybody?

Almost as easy as holding your negative up to a light.

 

[Flyfisher Tom]

I can't help but think you two can settle this better over a beer than on the forum, no? ;-)

 

[Sonnar Brian]

I think my wife would get upset at that.

Maybe a pool party with lots of kids, bring out the cameras and old raw files, fire up my custom hex-dumper.

 

[Flyfisher Tom]

Brian,

I was referring to the other two gentlemen 🙂

 

[Flyfisher Tom]

though a pool party does sound like a good idea

 

[Gid]

I can't help but think you two can settle this better over a beer than on the forum, no? ;-)

Well said.

Let's all agree to disagree and drink lots of beer.

We've covered this before many times, but what you write sometimes doesn't come across in the way you meant it. We should all pause before hitting send ..................................................................................................................................................................................... long pause 🙂

Gid

 

[BrianShaw]

I can hold a negative up to the light 🙂

It's always puzzled me how a neg looks right when you look at it one way... and right, only different, when you flip it over.

And what puzzles me even more... slides, even though they are positives, act the same way as negatives.

Hmmmm. 😕

 

[Flyfisher Tom]

My apologies Jenni ...

The other gentleman and gentle lady 🙂

 

[BrianShaw]

What do you mean other two gentlemen? 😛

Jenni

Don't you mean: What do you mean two gentlemen?

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[kbg32]

I'm not taking sides. Make mine a double.

 

[RJBender]

I can't help but think you two can settle this better over a beer than on the forum, no? ;-)

Drinks are free here.

R.J.

 

[RML]

Dang! Not only do I have to suffer the smell of film vs digital napalm in the morning, I also have to suffer it right before tucking in! Will it never end?

Film ain't better than digital, and digital ain't better than film. It's different. If you got a problem with that, either go to APUG (for you film gits) or to Jorge's DSLR forum (for you digital gits)(sorry, Jorge, it's a good site), and stay there. If you want to troll, got to PNUT.

 

[Toby]

with the greatest respect Andy have you thought about changing your username to King Canute? The digital tide is one that's never going to turn, I for one am at the very least ambivalent about it but if it was a choice between giving up film or giving up photography I know which I would choose

 

[Andy K]

with the greatest respect Andy have you thought about changing your username to King Canute? The digital tide is one that's never going to turn, I for one am at the very least ambivalent about it but if it was a choice between giving up film or giving up photography I know which I would choose

Erm... I don't quite know where that came from Toby, I thought we had a civil discourse on the other thread. 😕
I said I use film because that is what I want to use. So far that has been claimed to be anti-digital ranting, now you are claiming it to be trying to stop digital?

If film was to disappear, which it won't in any of our lifetimes, I would move into tintypes or take up painting or sculpture, in fact I will probably try tintypes anyway. I like creating with my eyes and hands, digital cannot give me that.

 

[Socke]

though a pool party does sound like a good idea

I'm a big fan of pool parties!

 

[Sonnar Brian]

Well if you tell my wife that they are kids, just mature for their age.

My wife is also very secure with digital. She used to debug the Cray Supercomputers.

She has never used a digital camera.

She prefers the hot tub over the pool.

Funny thing is, when we bought the house we didn't notice the pool in the backyard. It had snowed, and it was covered.

 

[hinius]

I like creating with my eyes and hands, digital cannot give me that.

Whoa, and there I thought photography was about examining a scene with one's eyes and then using one's hands to manipulate the camera to take the image. This whole sordid thread is concerning photography right?

My personal thoughts are it doesn't matter whether the medium is film or digital, or whether the camera is manual or automatic. If you don't have the eye, your photos are going to suck no matter what. One (and this isn't addressed at anyone specifically, although I could name names) can obsess about sharpness, agonise over buying any number of cameras or convince yourself that the workflow is all important, but at the end of the day, your pictures are still going to suck. To hell with film versus digital or RF versus SLR... people should be more concerned about improving their pictures.

This forum does contain photographers right? The best ones I've known have never given a hoot about many of the trivial concerns bandied around here. They just took pictures... which is really what I should be doing at the moment!

 

[Socke]

At the moment it's dark in london too, isnt' it?

And I have to convert a database running on one of the oldest DEC Alphas in Europe, amazing, waterbills dating back to 1993 and all intact and accessible 🙂