Digital Photos Can’t Be Trusted....

I seem to have taken the article rather differently to many others - I saw it more as bemoaning the fanciful garbage that seems to litter Flickr. If I see one more waif with a longing look reflected in an impossibly still pool I think I'll launch my tea at the monitor.
 
As a former forensic/crime scene photographer who was doing the work at the dawn of digital, I can say that on one hand I understand his perspective. On the other, using a photograph in court requires the photographer (or the person having it entered into evidence) to swear that it is a true and accurate representation of the scene as he/she saw it at the time, so the reputation of the photographer is at stake if it's manipulated. Back in 1996 when this whole issue first surfaced and I was running a crime scene unit/crime lab in NoCal, I was absolutely opposed to switching to digital, while a good friend of mine (with whom I am still in touch) in the Seattle area was on the cutting edge of adopting it for crime scene work. We had some great discussions in those days. I knew that digital was the next big thing, but I was able to play devil's advocate for film for a long while.

Now, that said, I've photographed crime scenes that were physically manipulated by suspects, witnesses, and cops; either intentionally or unintentionally. So my sworn testimony that the photo was a true representation of the scene as I saw it at the time still doesn't mean it was an accurate representation of how it was when the crime occurred.

And then, of course, there's the issue of manipulating the image through perspective, angle, and composition... what I chose to include in the photo and what I chose not to include, or block out through angle or perspective; something EVERY photographer does... and is entirely subjective. And there has been darkroom manipulation since the beginning of the photo process. Digital just makes it easier for more less-skilled scene-manipulators to make their manipulations after the fact.

There's a LOT of philosophical discussion that goes on about this issue even today. Really, the whole thing boils down to the credibility of the photographer offering the photo as "an accurate representation of the scene as it existed at the time of the photo" rather than the anti-manipulation limits of the medium used to make the image. I will say, however, that since digital imaging and digital manipulation has become so commonplace, that the general public is more skeptical of "truth" in imaging than they were thirty years ago. If there's an allegation of manipulation, the public is more ready to believe the challenge than the photographer and that makes it tough for folks like McCullen and working crime scene photographers to authenticate their images.
 
How about a RAW file?
RAW files can be modified as well. Example is PixelFixer that remaps stuck pixels inside a RAW file, even on the memory card inside the camera if that's what you want.. my D90 didn't object, and happily converted the modified RAW to JPEG as if nothing happened. Obviously PixelFixer isn't aimed at forging evidence, but shows that RAW isn't secure all by itself..
 
True. But it has nothing to do with what Don McCullin said in The Guardian.

Hmmm... my post was directly related to what McCullen said:

quoting from "The Guardian:"

Don McCullin, one of the world’s finest photographers of war and disaster, said the digital revolution meant viewers could no longer trust the truthfulness of images they see.

He said photography had been “hijacked” because “the digital cameras are extraordinary. I have a dark room and I still process film but digital photography can be a totally lying kind of experience, you can move anything you want … the whole thing can’t be trusted really.”
 
I believe it's fairly straightforward to examine a digital file at the pixel level to determine whether it has been significantly modified. Trouble is, you need NSA-level resources to do it.

HFL
 
Hmmm... my post was directly related to what McCullen said:

quoting from "The Guardian:"
Yeah, but I read that quote in light of the following quote:
he was happier with film, recalling one of his best experiences this year, standing on Hadrian’s Wall in a blizzard. “If I’d have used a digital camera I would have made that look attractive, but I wanted you to get the feeling that it was cold and lonely,” he said.

McCullin particularly dislikes how digital cameras allow for manipulation of colours. “These extraordinary pictures in colour, it looks as if someone has tried to redesign a chocolate box,” he said. “In the end, it doesn’t work, it’s hideous.”
It isn't the manipulation of the content (that could be done with film if one really wanted) - it is the experience that McCullin is talking about. Digital images aren't wrong but are giving a false impression. And I do agree with the content of your post, just not that this is McCullins position. But we of course could disagree on how to read this article :angel: and as long as McCullin doesn't contribute to this thread, we don't know what he meant.
 
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