Digital Rev does film SLR's
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edge100
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As much as I love to shoot film, I don't think the economics of film really work when you're using a DSLR (vs. a rangefinder, where the cost of FF digital is enormous relative to film).
bjornkeizers
Established
Awesome! I really enjoy their shows. They're using one of my exact combos - EOS 5/ A2E with the Nifty Fifty 50mm 1.8 II. Great little combination. Glad to see they enjoyed using it too. (more or less)
The only real issue I have with mine is... it's so much like a modern camera, you almost forget you're actually shooting film. Still perfectly usable.
The only real issue I have with mine is... it's so much like a modern camera, you almost forget you're actually shooting film. Still perfectly usable.
ShinX414
camera geek
Totally great! i really enjoyed their analog rev episodes even though i doubt that film would cost around 12$ for everyone and that it would be cheaper than a digital. If i am not mistaked they assumed that one would only use one roll of film per week.
Spicy
Well-known
saw the episode and thought it was pretty amusing. one of my buddies also commented about how the shots they took with the film cameras seemed a lot better than Kai's normal stuff when he's just walking around.
i know the basis of the episode was principally from an economic standpoint (at least at first), and this won't apply to everyone, but the real problem is the cost of film PLUS needing to have it developed and scanned (only talking about people that do hybrid process). the cost can/could be greatly reduced if one devs their own B&W and does "scans" with the likely-to-come-out Lomo smart-phone film scanner.
i'd consider doing that for proofing (probably decent enough quality for forum posting stuff as well). it'd be a whole lot cheaper to send out film to be scanned if you only sent out the shots you actually wanted scanned at high quality. general consensus seems like 2-3 quite good shots per roll is normal, so even after the $50 outlay for the Lomo thing (ignoring the cost of the phone, of course), if you only scanned your best shots instead of all of them, it'd be a fair bit cheaper...
i know the basis of the episode was principally from an economic standpoint (at least at first), and this won't apply to everyone, but the real problem is the cost of film PLUS needing to have it developed and scanned (only talking about people that do hybrid process). the cost can/could be greatly reduced if one devs their own B&W and does "scans" with the likely-to-come-out Lomo smart-phone film scanner.
i'd consider doing that for proofing (probably decent enough quality for forum posting stuff as well). it'd be a whole lot cheaper to send out film to be scanned if you only sent out the shots you actually wanted scanned at high quality. general consensus seems like 2-3 quite good shots per roll is normal, so even after the $50 outlay for the Lomo thing (ignoring the cost of the phone, of course), if you only scanned your best shots instead of all of them, it'd be a fair bit cheaper...
robert blu
quiet photographer
I shoot film on RFs and SRLs, as well as digital. Depending on projects. The one, still ongoing linked below is mainly shot with my Nikon FM2 and two lenses, 20 and 50mm.
It's nice to have opportunity to choice which "system" to use, which way to work on our project. Of course as a pure amateur it is easier.
robert
PS: link to one of my SLR project here and here.
It's nice to have opportunity to choice which "system" to use, which way to work on our project. Of course as a pure amateur it is easier.
robert
PS: link to one of my SLR project here and here.
Rangefinderfreak
Well-known
The lomo "scan" is a big joke. get a Flextight scanner instead...
Photo_Smith
Well-known
I'm wondering also if they made the common mistake in comparing film with D&P and scan to digital. Digital camera's don't give you prints.
That said it was amusing and their shots looked nice.
That said it was amusing and their shots looked nice.
Pete B
Well-known
The thing that struck me was how nice the colour was in the shots from 11.30 on. Also, the conclusion regarding quality of cameras in each generation was quite interesting.
Pete
Pete
David Hughes
David Hughes
Hi,
The trouble with all these financial comparisons is that it all depends on where you start from and what you want to end up with.
When I was in my collecting or accumulating mode I used a lot of film for testing and searched for cheap but reasonable film, ie the supermarket stuff. I'd get it just out of date and so on. Then I'd ask for the film to be developed and scanned only. So I could pay a pound for the film or less and two for the develop and scan. Not only that but I bought one or two fairly serious cameras for less than the cassette of film.
Cheaper still, I have seen and bought one or two elderly digital cameras. My best being a dSLR that was in a case I was after and so I got the dSLR and two cards for free, and it took AA's. Sold one of the cards on ebay and had a free camera etc and some coffee money...
OTOH, some of my serious digital or film work cost me more than a cup of coffee per print. And depreciation on the digital camera is best not thought about.
So, really the cost of photography as a hobby can be next to nothing to a fortune, film or digital. It all depends on what we are aiming for and how we go about it.
Regards, David
The trouble with all these financial comparisons is that it all depends on where you start from and what you want to end up with.
When I was in my collecting or accumulating mode I used a lot of film for testing and searched for cheap but reasonable film, ie the supermarket stuff. I'd get it just out of date and so on. Then I'd ask for the film to be developed and scanned only. So I could pay a pound for the film or less and two for the develop and scan. Not only that but I bought one or two fairly serious cameras for less than the cassette of film.
Cheaper still, I have seen and bought one or two elderly digital cameras. My best being a dSLR that was in a case I was after and so I got the dSLR and two cards for free, and it took AA's. Sold one of the cards on ebay and had a free camera etc and some coffee money...
OTOH, some of my serious digital or film work cost me more than a cup of coffee per print. And depreciation on the digital camera is best not thought about.
So, really the cost of photography as a hobby can be next to nothing to a fortune, film or digital. It all depends on what we are aiming for and how we go about it.
Regards, David
BNLee
Established
True that, on one end. Film really puts a lot of excitement into us shooters who love film, on the other end, many of us still cannot depart with digital which I must admit is loads more convenient than film, if that excludes editing.
Well, I hope that video will not cause the prices of film cameras to go crazy!😀
jultou
Established
Like really like this show. These guys are very funny and creative in the way they make tests and reviews.
About this vid, it's not their best but still, very interesting that they do test old film equipment.
The 'cheap camera challenge' serie is a must see. Impressive so see some of today masters at work.
About this vid, it's not their best but still, very interesting that they do test old film equipment.
The 'cheap camera challenge' serie is a must see. Impressive so see some of today masters at work.
taemo
eat sleep shoot
sold all my 35mm except my M6, sold my EOS-3 for only $150 couple of days ago but I guess because of this episode, their price will go up now again
tunalegs
Pretended Artist
Buy film in bulk rolls and you can shoot something like 18,000 frames for $1000. Not really sure how to figure the processing since that will depend on what you use and how you use it, but estimate it'd probably add on somewhere between $1000-$3000. My two favorite 35mm cameras cost me $0.99 and $40 respectively.
Actually, I find it's the crap labs that are going away. There seem to be more and more good ones left... 🙂
Eye control AF doesn't work too well when wearing goofy sunglasses. 🙂
Wish they had showed some alternatives, like how a zone focused RF can nail the shot without waiting for an older AF SLR to find focus.
Question: has Kai ever used a strap? I seem to recall every camera he carries has no wrist or neck strap.
Wish they had showed some alternatives, like how a zone focused RF can nail the shot without waiting for an older AF SLR to find focus.
Question: has Kai ever used a strap? I seem to recall every camera he carries has no wrist or neck strap.
lam
Well-known
I <3 analogrev. They need to just start a whole new series on it, tons to experience learn and share, it just wouldn't make DigitalRev any money haha.
PatrickT
New Rangefinder User
Enjoyable episode 🙂
taemo
eat sleep shoot
he has, he popularized canon camera with nikon strap and vice-versa
BlackXList
Well-known
I mostly enjoyed the video, although it prompted me to make my first ever youtube comment (I normally avoid the comments like the plague) about eye control focussing with sunglasses/glasses and without having calibrated it, and about the conclusion that film just isn't viable, and I'd run out of characters by the time Kai pretty much said all cameras of that generation were crap.
I really don't understand where Kai gets a lot of the stuff he comes out with from, and as a result I don't tend to watch Digital Rev videos.
There seems to be a lot of deliberate stupidity (like complaining that eye control doesn't work through sunglasses) and then writing the whole camera off on the basis of that.
And the "all the cameras of our childhood were crap" comments, no idea where that came from, and there were plenty of people who managed to get better than crap results from them, and of course the "film just isn't viable" comments, based on what? they all seemed to go out and manage to take photos.
It did make me wish I could get hold of some 400UC though
I really don't understand where Kai gets a lot of the stuff he comes out with from, and as a result I don't tend to watch Digital Rev videos.
There seems to be a lot of deliberate stupidity (like complaining that eye control doesn't work through sunglasses) and then writing the whole camera off on the basis of that.
And the "all the cameras of our childhood were crap" comments, no idea where that came from, and there were plenty of people who managed to get better than crap results from them, and of course the "film just isn't viable" comments, based on what? they all seemed to go out and manage to take photos.
It did make me wish I could get hold of some 400UC though
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