Do you feel less creative with a non-full frame?

Funnily enough, I found that I used the 50mm a lot more with the M8 than on film, where I was used to 35mm. Maybe it's because the cropped 50 was a lot closer to my other favourite full-frame lens, the 75. On DSLRs I don't really find my 14mm on an APS-C very different from 21 on full frame but I wish I still had my Micro Nikkor for close-ups: 90mm is inconveniently long.

Cheers,

R.
 
back alley said:
it's all in your head man...
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I tend to agree with you.
The proof, for me, comes when I'm editing images after a shoot. When I do a portrait session, I'll generally use the D700 and D700 along with an 85mm and 50mm lens. I mix and match, so the lens/camera combinations change a lot.
But when I'm going through the images - I always have to check the EXIF data to see which lens I was using on a particular shot.
 
Constrained by 4/3 system? Not at all. Been shooting with an E-3 for three years now and loving every minute of it. I think using the E-3 ENHANCED my creativity--with image stabilization and the Live View function, I was able to get shots I'd never gotten before.

Looking very seriously at that new OM-D. Looks like the best of all possible worlds: an OM style digital camera. Every Zuikoholic's dream come true...
 
back alley said:
what folks don't seem to understand is...that a 35mm lens is STILL a 35mm lens, no matter if it's on a cropped sensor or not.
the look is still the same. the fov has changed but not the look.
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For most happy snappers like me the most important question is: "what do I get on the photo when I use this lens in combination with that sensor". The focal length is the most important feature of a lens for this question. When this is answered then comes aperture and then maybe the look, rendering, bokeh or whatever.
 
No issue with crop sensors themselves, but do have an issue with resultant holes in the lens line-up available for crop bodies, with some manufacturers showing a major reluctance to fell gaps that exist in their crop sensor line-up that do not exist in their full frame sensor line-up.

I suppose there are swings and roundabouts, but do find the lack of certain lenses a problem. For example a 50mm makes a nice 75mm-equivalent lens for my Nikon D300, but on the flipside there is no real option for a nice 85mm/ 105mm equivalent on dx designed specifically for portraiture.

I suppose as mentioned, a full frame body and a crop sensor body would be the best of both worlds. I do know I would love to be able one day to use Nikons portrait lenses as they were intended, particularly the very nice defocus control ones (105mm and 135mm), as on crop sensor DX bodies, they are far too long for me. Same with their 85mm f1.4 lens, which becomes a headshot/ outdoor only portrait lens for me.
 
I find it doesn't really bother me, I just plan around it. The lenses I use on my Canon 7D are all compatible with full frame, and I recently picked up a film EOS 5 for a song so now I have double the options. I do find the 50mm to be a bit tight on 1.6 crop so I use it as a portrait and indoor short tele on the 7D, but on the EOS 5 it's back to the 50mm goodness that I'm used to. For more general purpose photography I find the 16-35mm range ideal, even if it is equivalent to a strange 25.6-56mm on the 7D it covers 28mm, 35mm and 50mm equivalents. Then again, I can and do always go back to my M6 and it's almost always attached C-Sonnar 50mm, and its companion the 28mm Biogon, just not for fast moving kids.

Cheers,
Rob
 
Sometimes I would crop with full frame. I now sometimes crop with aps-h frame. Creatively It feels like for the same reason. It's a strange question at this late stage of smaller sensors. 135 used to be the small frame from what some older folks say. It feels tiny to me after shooting 6x9 but, creatively just as capable.
 
I just use what I have on me.
No use wishing for something you do not have (with you)

So I just adjust my way of seeing to what ever it is I'm shooting with.
 
Paul Luscher said:
Constrained by 4/3 system? Not at all. Been shooting with an E-3 for three years now and loving every minute of it. I think using the E-3 ENHANCED my creativity--with image stabilization and the Live View function, I was able to get shots I'd never gotten before.

Looking very seriously at that new OM-D. Looks like the best of all possible worlds: an OM style digital camera. Every Zuikoholic's dream come true...
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Paul, your E3 has a big viewfinder with a slightly bigger than 1x magnification. It's easier to "be creative" with that kind of view using any lens 🙂

I too have come to the conclusion that the best wide angle lenses for crop sensor cameras are the ones designed for them. And I'm happy that being a m4/3rd user today, my choices are quite varied and not lacking.
 
rbelyell said:
tbh, i find it very annoying. many of us have favorite lenses we've come to know and love and understand at certain FLs. to all of a sudden no longer have a great 24, but rather a middling 35, or a perfect 80 thats now a much less useful 120, just really pisses me off!
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Sounds like you bought the wrong camera(s) for your lenses.
 
I don't feel less creative.

I do feel limited by m4/3 and smaller sensors due to the wider DOF, the decreased dynamic range and reduced signal-to-noise ratio compared to my cameras with APS-C and 135 format sensors. I sold my D200 bodies because of similar SNR and DR limitations.

I also feel limited by the finders in m4/3 bodies, but that's due to the vendors' marketing decisions and obviously unrelated to sensor size.
 
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