KenD
Film Shooter
Do you use accessory finders? When and with what bodies / lenses?
Instantclassic
Hans
Sometimes I use the SuperAngulon without finder together with my M2. I seem to get the framing even if its not as convenient. Makes the camera less "bulky" though.
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
When my camera has no viewfinder...
Cheers,
Juan
Cheers,
Juan
rbiemer
Unabashed Amateur
When ever I'm using a lens my camera(s) doesn't have frame lines for.
Specifically, I use the FSU turret finder with any lens other than a 50 on my FED 4 and I use the dedicated finder for my CV 21mm on the FED and my Bessas--R, R2a, and L.
I also have specific finders for 35, 85, and 135. The 35 and 85 are FSU and the 135 is Komura. They are each fairly decent but I tend to use the turret finder more.
Rob
Specifically, I use the FSU turret finder with any lens other than a 50 on my FED 4 and I use the dedicated finder for my CV 21mm on the FED and my Bessas--R, R2a, and L.
I also have specific finders for 35, 85, and 135. The 35 and 85 are FSU and the 135 is Komura. They are each fairly decent but I tend to use the turret finder more.
Rob
Ronald M
Veteran
Most of the time with 111F even for a 50. Leica`s 50 is better than an M finder including the M3.
for 135 on M2 or any .72 camera.
even 90 mm on later .72 models because the 90 lines are junk unlike the M2.
15/28 on any camera. 28 lines on any M are miserable to use.
I have a full set of 21/28/35/50/90/135 old metal Leitz finders. The 21 and 28 have become very costly, but I have had mine for 25 years and they were not that high then. Even have the leather cases for the 21 and 28.
At one point I purchased the 21/28 Leica zoom finder. Do not waste your money.
for 135 on M2 or any .72 camera.
even 90 mm on later .72 models because the 90 lines are junk unlike the M2.
15/28 on any camera. 28 lines on any M are miserable to use.
I have a full set of 21/28/35/50/90/135 old metal Leitz finders. The 21 and 28 have become very costly, but I have had mine for 25 years and they were not that high then. Even have the leather cases for the 21 and 28.
At one point I purchased the 21/28 Leica zoom finder. Do not waste your money.
gilpen123
Gil
Never used one but I'm thinking of getting the leica 35 for my M3.
Tompas
Wannabe Künstler
I use a 15mm viewfinder when I have the Voightländer 4,5/15 Super Wide-Heliar on my Bessa R3a, and I permanenty have a 25mm viewfinder on my Bessa L with its 4/25 Snapshot Skopar. Both very good lenses, and I still find this whole I-simply-do-not-focus-precisely-but-get-sharp-images-anyway thing fascinating. 
I was even thinking about buying a digital camera and use it with an optical viewfinder -- but then found that I could get a decent, although not 'full-frame' DSLR (like the Pentax K-x) for less money...
I was even thinking about buying a digital camera and use it with an optical viewfinder -- but then found that I could get a decent, although not 'full-frame' DSLR (like the Pentax K-x) for less money...
Roger Hicks
Veteran
I use 'em whenever they're needed -- which generally means, when I'm using a lens for which my camera doesn't have a finder frame.
Sure, I sometimes shoot 'from the hip' without a finder, especially 15mm, and I'll also use ultrawides without a finder when my sole ambition is to get everything in; but generally, the better the idea I have of what's going to be on the film, the happier I am. Within the limits of rangefinder cameras' viewfinders, anyway.
Cheers,
R.
Sure, I sometimes shoot 'from the hip' without a finder, especially 15mm, and I'll also use ultrawides without a finder when my sole ambition is to get everything in; but generally, the better the idea I have of what's going to be on the film, the happier I am. Within the limits of rangefinder cameras' viewfinders, anyway.
Cheers,
R.
ruby.monkey
Veteran
I use a finder whenever the lens demands it.
I don't really like external viewfinders, but make an exception for the Mamiya 43mm f4.5 because its such a good lens. I've sold off all my other lenses that needed external viewfinders.
MV72
Marc VERRIERE
Helios finder on Leica IIIa and Jup-12. Not state of the art of course, but it suits me fine. Turret finder on Kiev 4 and Jup-12.
raydm6
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bwcolor
Veteran
Roger:
Perhaps I'm confused, but I remember reading one of your post some time ago stating that you didn't shoot 15mm, but you would have to give it a try. Obviously, you did, or I got you confused with someone else. I only go down to 21mm presently and to be responsive to the thread, no longer use my Zeiss Viewfinder, but rather my R4A. I was thinking of springing for the new 15mm in that I do want to use filters. How are you getting along with your 15mm? Curious as to your experience as a new user.
Perhaps I'm confused, but I remember reading one of your post some time ago stating that you didn't shoot 15mm, but you would have to give it a try. Obviously, you did, or I got you confused with someone else. I only go down to 21mm presently and to be responsive to the thread, no longer use my Zeiss Viewfinder, but rather my R4A. I was thinking of springing for the new 15mm in that I do want to use filters. How are you getting along with your 15mm? Curious as to your experience as a new user.
FrozenInTime
Well-known
Great accessories - couldn't survive without them 
SBOOI with the O-series - which takes it from the worst viewfinder ever to the all time clearest sharpest 50mm finder.
Frankenfinder with the 21mm Summilux.
This lens encourages OOF/close in use where parallax estimation becomes a big problem.
This finder has a bubble which is great for horizons but I wish it also had a vertical bubble.
A bulky, ugly finder - but it does the job well.
Zeiss 18mm OVF with ZM18- brilliant sharp finder
Ricoh VF-2 with GRD-III a brilliant little 28mm finder
Hassy SWC/M finder with mirror to see the bubble on the camera.
Hassy wire frame 80mm with 501c - clips on to accessory rail.
A really nice lightweight accompaniment to the WLF.
Very useful for shooting out of windows in cars/planes etc. where the WLF is a issue.
Donald.
SBOOI with the O-series - which takes it from the worst viewfinder ever to the all time clearest sharpest 50mm finder.
Frankenfinder with the 21mm Summilux.
This lens encourages OOF/close in use where parallax estimation becomes a big problem.
This finder has a bubble which is great for horizons but I wish it also had a vertical bubble.
A bulky, ugly finder - but it does the job well.
Zeiss 18mm OVF with ZM18- brilliant sharp finder
Ricoh VF-2 with GRD-III a brilliant little 28mm finder
Hassy SWC/M finder with mirror to see the bubble on the camera.
Hassy wire frame 80mm with 501c - clips on to accessory rail.
A really nice lightweight accompaniment to the WLF.
Very useful for shooting out of windows in cars/planes etc. where the WLF is a issue.
Donald.
rjbuzzclick
Well-known
I do with a Zorki 4/Jupiter 12, I don't with a Koni-Omega Rapid M/60mm.
barnwulf
Well-known
I mostly use a 28mm lens on my M6 and a 21mm on my M8. The 28mm viewfinder lines on the M6 are just too difficult to use. I wear glasses and I can shoot without the glasses but the viewfinder seems too much of a push to be comfortable. A brightline finder works great. I shoot at hyperfocal distance settings usually so the rangefinder is not much of an issue. If I want to use the rangefinder in come cases I do and they shift my eye back to the brightline finder for framing the image.
biomed
Veteran
Yes. with my CV15 and 21 lenses. Most recently with a GF1 - 20/1.7 combo.
Bingley
Veteran
With my Bessa T, always.
With my IIIc, often, even when using a 50; the CV 50 finder is brighter than the built-in 50 vf. The chrome 35/28 mini-finder is compact and easy to use on a barnack, I find.
With my IIIc, often, even when using a 50; the CV 50 finder is brighter than the built-in 50 vf. The chrome 35/28 mini-finder is compact and easy to use on a barnack, I find.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Roger:
Perhaps I'm confused, but I remember reading one of your post some time ago stating that you didn't shoot 15mm, but you would have to give it a try. Obviously, you did, or I got you confused with someone else. I only go down to 21mm presently and to be responsive to the thread, no longer use my Zeiss Viewfinder, but rather my R4A. I was thinking of springing for the new 15mm in that I do want to use filters. How are you getting along with your 15mm? Curious as to your experience as a new user.
Either I was unclear (or mistyped) or you're misremembering, because I've had the original 15 since it came out. I like it very well, even filterless, even on the M8.
Cheers,
R.
bwcolor
Veteran
I only have 64KB memory, so misremember is the right choice.Either I was unclear (or mistyped) or you're misremembering, because I've had the original 15 since it came out. I like it very well, even filterless, even on the M8.
Cheers,
R.
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