Does anybody besides me think Ralph Gibson's "Leica Picture of the Year"...

[raid]

Yes and no Raid! I think one things are personal tastes and preferences, another things is the avaluation of somebody's work.

Let's assume I like abstract art and design: I could say I like thie kind of pictures but I do not like landscapes or formal portraits. Which absolutelu does not mean thay cannot be good pictures. Simply do not suit my taste but still are good.
Of course if I want to buy a photo or a painting to hang in my living room I agree a good one is the one I like 🙂

I understand what you mean. I always try to understand the different tastes when I look at someone's work. I am not evaluating another person's work.

 

[chipgreenberg]

Yes and no Raid! I think one things are personal tastes and preferences, another things is the evaluation of somebody's work.

Let's assume I like abstract art and design: I can say I like this kind of pictures but I do not like landscapes or formal portraits. Which absoluteluy does not mean thay cannot be good pictures. Simply do not suit my taste but still are good.
Of course if I want to buy a photo or a painting to hang in my living room I agree a good one is the one I like 🙂

To me, a good one is one that aligns with my taste. As you said Robert, doesn't mean if I don't like an image it's not a good image. I try to keep an open mind when looking at colleagues work but we're all human and have our built in tastes and filters.

I prefer (generally) color images to B/W, I like strong design. This image has that. I prefer stronger more interesting light, but I would have given this a second look.

 

[ranger9]

The other thing is if Ralph Gibson is selling his prints for only $2000, there is no hope for any of us of making a living in the fine art photography field.

Well, he also owns Lustrum Press, which might help. Incidentally, I found an interesting NYT article about how he started that; it all had to do with the aerospace industry's taste for lavishly-printed annual reports. (If it turns out this is behind a paywall, sorry; maybe I can summarize...)

https://www.nytimes.com/1971/10/03/archives/this-publisher-dares.html

 

[Emile de Leon]

RG critiques..
Are mostly on some level..
Just jealousy..
As in..
WWTFK???
I coulda done that..
Why is Ralphy... gettin all the glory?
I would venture..
Because...he...is...lol..
Basically all this critique stuff is sheer intellectualism..a product of the mind..and judgement..
Pretty much college mental stuff..zzzz..
As in..
Yes and No..
Good and Bad..
Heaven and Hell..
What grade did I receive..?
That kinda sheit..
And Ralphy...gets.. the internet Gong..and the hook..off to stage right..from people that use their eyes..and brain..and imprinting..to make judgement..
Happens every day of the week..24/7..
But I would venture..
If your daughter or wife or son....made that shot..
Or...even...you...
And got the L award..and the cash..and the prestige!
Well..
There wouldnt be too much rumbling..about that at all..
In fact..just maybe.. you would say to people..
You know..Leica is selling my daughters prints..and she won photo of the year..
Pretty good huh?
Yeah!

 

[Michael Markey]

It is not partly a marketing vehicle. It is entirely a marketing vehicle. And Leica needs to get a new translation service. In English on its website it is called "Leica Picture of the Year 2021". Picture?

Seems correct to me ... its a picture .
That`s what we call them 🙂

 

[Bille]

...is kind of lame? I mean, seriously:

https://leicarumors.com/2022/01/30/leica-picture-of-the-year-2021.aspx/

If I had shot that I would probably be happy with it, and post it on my Instagram, and it might get six or eight likes, and that would be the end of it...

Ok, this is it? LOL

 

[Ricoh]

Not one of his best.
If not for RG being attributed, it wouldn’t get more than a second or two of viewing before moving on.

 

[jsrockit]

Seems correct to me ... its a picture .
That`s what we call them 🙂

I think we also call them photos or photographs.

 

[raydm6]

I'm not trying to cause any trouble now... I think 'picture' usage is ok.

Think of the movies. We would have to change it from 'motion-picture show' to 'motion-photograph show'. Doesn't roll off the tongue as well... 🙂


picture


pĭk′chər

noun

1. A visual representation or image painted, drawn, photographed, or otherwise rendered on a flat surface.
2. A visible image, especially one on a flat surface or screen.
3. A vivid or realistic verbal description.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.

 

[Sonnar Brian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbdCpi4qTNY

Blondie, "Picture This" would lose something if she had done "Photo This". Great in concert.

Ralph Gibson's color photography is consistent with this new image. "Umbrella on the Beach", It could fit in "1971-2004 France Color". Well before the Digital cameras from Leica. If you like The France Color series, you probably would also like this image.

Ralph Gibson studied Photography while in the Navy. He has had a highly successful career. He can take pictures of what he wants to and has made a good living with it. That is a success story. He also uses Leica cameras. That is a good story for Leica as well.

 

[Michael Markey]

I think we also call them photos or photographs.

Yes we do that too but its more common to say ..."get any good pictures" 0r "that`s a good picture " .

Back on subject ... I must admit that that I find Gibson is far too pretentious for my taste and that particular shot unremarkable .
That would be the kindest description .

 

[bullterrier]

hhmmm...I could do that also instead of sitting here on my freezing ass!

 

[bullterrier]

Y I must admit that that I find Gibson is far too pretentious for my taste .

hmmm maybe better try him with barbecue sauce ??

 

[pixelated]

I like the photo, but calling it the best taken with a Leica all year seems like a stretch. OTH, who knows? Maybe Leica photographers are slipping.🙂

 

[boojum]

I'm beginning to like it.

 

[raydm6]

This Leica promo video shows how the boat image was taken. Also RG plays guitar! I didn't know that. Anyone know where this Marina is? Looks inviting. It's icy and 19deg. F here in Massachusetts 🙂

https://leica-camera.com/en-US/stori...n-m11-autonomy

 

[jsrockit]

So, basically they said hey we need to make a video of you photographing something and then we will use that image for this ad campaign? I think he did well under the circumstances.

 

[Yokosuka Mike]

Another DOA thread that lives a long life.

All the best,
Mike

 

[raydm6]

Looks like he used a 135 APO-Telyt-M for the shot - for a little compression à la Saul Leiter? Interesting that the model number and s/n are missing from hot-shoe frame. Perhaps an early R&D model or it was digitally obscured for privacy?

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[jsrockit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbdCpi4qTNY

Blondie, "Picture This" would lose something if she had done "Photo This". Great in concert.

Well, as a noun photo and picture can be synonymous. As a verb, telling someone to photograph this means something different than telling someone to picture this.