does this look 3d to you?

ishpop said:
Nothing in this thread looks "3d" to me except the dog shot a bit. Which really shows that it's relative.

To me, a "3d" look is caused by a combination of lighting and DoF. Whereas every time I see people in forums discuss 3D, they seem to just post shots with narrow depth of field... I am always confused by these threads lol.

The best of example of "3d" to me, and mind you, I think its actually really rare and lucky to capture this look, is this shot byt the Flickr king Oshima:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tommyoshima/2114323047/sizes/l/

And of course I think Tilt Shift shots are the one way to make an image look 3d almost by default:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tommyoshima/481014397/sizes/l/
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links go to 'private' photos...
 
Does it count as 3D pic and if it's not then why?

Thanks in advance!

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Sparrow said:
supporting that view with some photos we can see would be nice, from either of you.
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The people on this thread have provided many examples. Some use clearly defined foregrounds, focal planes, and backgrounds. Some just have the sharp subjects with a second layer OOF. The most clearly "3D" of them pop from the background with very clear edges around the subject with means of DOF, local contrast, and light. The dog photo looks like the clearest example to my eyes.

You won't see as many with a long DOF, and you certainly won't see them without clear layers of depth within the photo, as opposed to gradually coming in or out of focus.
 
blackwave said:
The definition of 3D in this thread varies a lot, mainly because none of these are "3D." What we're seeing is the perception of depth in a 2D image.

The things that contribute to this effect are, for the purposes of this thread, three things:

1) Separation from background and foreground into layers by way of DOF. The layers have noticable gaps between the level of focus they have. In other words, there's little graduation between major planes of focus.

2) It's further enhanced by contrast, or more accurately, "local contrast." That is, the contrast between two areas that lie next to each other in the photo. Higher local contrast "pops" the subject and lends to the 3D look.

3) Separation from the background by lighting, as in the dog picture posted. The light falling on the dog is brighter than the light falling on the background. It's another way of doing local contrast. Fill flash against a darker background is one way to do it.

Nothing complicated or mysterious here.. just basic photo principals that we all know coming together.

$.02
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#1 is KEY. But in order for it to be really effective (the 3-d illusion) you have to have the subject be ABSOLUTELY SHARP. In lot of the examples above the subject is not really sharp..perhaps due to motion, camera shake, focus error. Whereas the examples where the point of focus is absolutely sharp tend to appear more 3d.
 
Joe,
I think this image has PLENTY of "3D" feel to it. I like it a lot... it feels 'real'. Sometimes I see images where the photographer has squeezed every ounce of foreground and background out of an image. These make me feel like the photographer is just trying to show off his/her fast lens. And those images don't feel 'real' to me. I think we have to be careful to not be 'heavy-handed' with the flat dof and over-done contrast.

I was just reading a copy of "Robert Doisneau/Paris" and his pictures have the same feel as your bench. Its like when I look at those images, I feel like I'm there. Rather than the over-done images I see too often on the web that make me feel like I'm at the end of a digital-processing tunnel of sorts.

Keep it up... nice pic. By the way, did you do that with film or with the g1? Thanks.
Jamie
 
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