Dreaded filters for Canon 35/50mm

[Raoul_Volfoni]

Hi everyone,

I own a Canon P which I have been using with a 50mm f:1,8 and a 35mm f:2,8. I also use a Color Heliar 75mm with an external Yashica viewfinder; but no problem here.
I have a small issue with the Canon lenses though. I was fortunate enough to purchase a lens hood which came in its case with an original yellow filter, but I am now looking for other filters (mainly for BW). It is well known that the 40mm thread is a pain in the neck and filters are scarce.
I can't find any in my local shops in Paris, no luck on Ebay.

Does anybody know a place where I can find some ?
I also read (Karen Nakamura and Dante Stella websites) that there are some adapters manufactured by a japanese firm but I couldn't find those either... And I don't know if they are practical or not.

Any hint to point me in the right direction would be appreciated.

Thank you.

 

[bennyng]

Perhaps you can consider step up filter adapters in 40.5mm 49mm or 52mm filter size. Color filters will be easier to find in these sizes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Step-up-Fil...773374?hash=item3cc7e5f1be:g:3PEAAOSwKfVXG4p5

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Step-up-Fil...131886?hash=item3a768e2b6e:g:YygAAOSw~oFXG4kP

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Step-up-Fil...151391?hash=item3cc828bf5f:g:mkMAAOSw1DtXG4is

Hope that helps.

Cheers,

 

[michaelwj]

Keep your eyes open - they do appear on eBay (especially from Japanese sellers) quite regularly. Usually as sets and usually well priced.
The step up ring is another option, but would probably not allow the hood (and doesn't look as cool!)

 

[Graybeard]

New 40mm UV filters are being offered by several vendors on eBay.

 

[sevo]

All filters currently in production seem to be M40x0.5 or even poorly declared M40.5x0.5. IIRC the Canon lenses take coarse pitch M40x0.75. Which were already out of production in the mid eighties (when I needed some for a Bolex lens).

 

[peterm1]

I am lucky enough to have a couple of original Canon filters in 40mm (and 58mm) but most of these are UV ones (plus one yellow).

Here is what I mostly do. I found the lens hood (linked below from eBay) which works very well for both Canon and Leica LTM / M lenses and some Voigtlander ones. I have used it for lenses as wide as the Voigtlander 40mm f1.5 and as long as 90mm Tele Elmarit.

Its thread diameter is 43mm which works well because being bigger than most of the above lens thread diameters all I then need are some cheap and accessible stepping rings (mainly 39mm - 43mm for Leica glass and 40mm - 43mm for Canon, both of which are quite readily available). Then I can add to this stepping ring a 43mm filter (whichever one I happen to need) and then the screw on hood over the filter.

This means the one size filter (and hood) works for most of these lenses and 43mm while not ultra common can be found. I used this trick for example when I needed an IR Cut filter for my M8 and means I can use the same cut filter on several lenses thus saving money too. These IR cut filters are especially hard to find in odd sizes but I had little or no difficulty in finding one in 43mm. Also I have had no problems with thread pitch on the stepping ring that I recall.

The hood looks nice on all of the above lenses as well as working well.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281081773845?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

[Raoul_Volfoni]

Thanks for all the advice.

I also have the original lens hood. I will try to use 43mm filters with it.
If for some reason it does not work I will try the step up rings.

Lots of options that never crossed my mind actually. Oh well...

Thanks again.

 

[Graybeard]

All filters currently in production seem to be M40x0.5 or even poorly declared M40.5x0.5. IIRC the Canon lenses take coarse pitch M40x0.75. Which were already out of production in the mid eighties (when I needed some for a Bolex lens).

I'm using several of the new production Chinese filters on Canon 50mm/1.8 lenses/ The filters screw on easily without binding.

 

[sevo]

I'm using several of the new production Chinese filters on Canon 50mm/1.8 lenses/ The filters screw on easily without binding.

So what pitch are these?

 

[Mark Wood]

The hood for the Fuji X10 fits the 40mm thread of the 35/2.8 nicely and that takes 52mm filters inside the hood itself. (Plenty of cheaper copies of that hood seem to be available.)

 

[Peter Jennings]

The original Canon hood should take regular series VI filters - the kind without threads. They may be easier to find than 40mm threaded filters.

 

[Peter Jennings]

Like these. And this is a really good price.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-Filter-Series-VI-Set-of-5-Filters-in-Stacking-Original-Case-/191887600593?hash=item2cad646bd1:g:IXoAAOSwOVpXUNRk

 

[kermaier]

The original Canon hood should take regular series VI filters - the kind without threads. They may be easier to find than 40mm threaded filters.

+1 use Series VI filters in the hood.

 

[Spavinaw]

If you should decide to step up to 43mm size filters, be aware that they come in both fine and course threaded versions. Your adapter will undoubtedly have the coarse threads. Fine thread filters will NOT work correctly! They will probably only screw in less than a full turn and fall out.

 

[Graybeard]

The hood for the Fuji X10 fits the 40mm thread of the 35/2.8 nicely and that takes 52mm filters inside the hood itself. (Plenty of cheaper copies of that hood seem to be available.)

The filters that I mentioned using are advertised as fitting the x10

 

[ray*j*gun]

I have a filter and a hood as noted by Grarybeard and they work well on my 50mm 1,8 (designed for the X10)

 

[dougcee]

Found a UV filter for my Canon 50mm f1.8 from a Chinese seller on ebay about $5.00 including shipping. It's perfect! Ad says it fits DSLR cameras.🙂

 

[ferider]

1) you can by a step up adapter
2) you can use series 6 or 7 filters in a hood or ring
3) you can use Marumi 40mm uv filters (made for Fuji?), and replace the uv filter with color filters out of a 40.5mm B+W filter (just requires unscrewing a ring in the B+W case, and removing a "spring-ring" in the Marumi one).

I do 2) and 3).

Roland.

 

[peterm1]

1) you can by a step up adapter
2) you can use series 6 or 7 filters in a hood or ring
3) you can use Marumi 40mm uv filters (made for Fuji?), and replace the uv filter with color filters out of a 40.5mm B+W filter (just requires unscrewing a ring in the B+W case, and removing a "spring-ring" in the Marumi one).

I do 2) and 3).

Roland.

I agree. While I proposed using a step up adapter ring to use a more standard filter size it is possible to swap out the glass in the way mentioned. BTW I have also done this with other filters such as when I want to use a vintage chrome filter (for use on a chrome lens) but it's got the wrong color glass for my purpose and have a black filter with the correct color glass from which I can swap. Simple to do and a good solution.

 

[Nokton48]

I used to use Kodak Wratten filters in my Canon Hoods.
They did not rattle around, I always found that annoying.
The Kodaks fit tightly with no rattle.