eBay scammer - IIIF

[bucs]

Buying lenses are the most tricky. Especially with vintage glass.

 

[GarageBoy]

Holy crap, so I needed some cash and went to move a few things on eBay, and reluctantly sold a iiig to China... Checked his feedback, all camera related things, though from one seller... It got "lost" and in the end I had to refund...
I can't even sell a beater ltm summicron without a bunch of 0 feedback bidders raising the price above what's reasonable (if it walks like a duck...) I have a feeling they're gonna claim the items were lost or something shady, so I immediately shut down the auction

Something about leicas and scammers...
I sell items all the time with no problems
Sorry, I'm just frustrated... Guess I'll be using the classifieds and hoping for better luck.

 

[Darthfeeble]

In the case of the picture of a different camera, did you record the serial number of the camera? I'm not sure if old Leicas have one but they should. Lenses too.

 

[GarageBoy]

I didn't that time, but afterwards, yes
Luckily, he tried scamming me with a different model camera

 

[TerryMcC]

Some buyers have strange ideas. I sold a camera to a fellow from a French colony. He gave me neutral feedback because the post office was too slow, some of the customs dockets had fallen ( I hadn’t put them on, the Post Office had, and communication was too hard ( I spoke English, he spoke French). He could not see that I had no control over any of these.

 

[tunalegs]

I have to be honest, I am 100% done selling cameras on ebay. After my last sale, the seller complained to me that the camera was "dusty", and they claimed it was because I used shredded paper as packing filler, and they wanted me to pay for the camera (which they paid $80 for) to have a CLA. I declined, and they left me negative feedback.

There's nothing I can do really except report the buyer to ebay for inappropriate feedback (or for requesting additional services, I guess?).

The topping is, I found out the seller is in Hong Kong (of course 9__ 9) but has a U.S. address. So despite not shipping to international buyers, and opting out of the mess of ebay's shipping program, somebody will find a way to screw it all up.

And it's only camera sales. I sell lots of different stuff on ebay, but camera buyers, particularly those overseas ALWAYS invent something to complain about. And it never happens with any other items. Unspecified "dust" seems to be a particularly common complaint. Sometimes it a lie, sometimes it's they just didn't read the description, I've had a few cameras which I plainly described as "dusty" provoke messages from their new owners, about how the camera is "dusty", as if this is somehow a surprise.

 

[Dez]

I have had my share of bad experiences with both buying and selling on eBay, but in the great majority of the transactions, everything went smoothly. I agree the feedback system these days is quite biased toward the buyer.

The thing I find most miserable though is eBay's Global Shipping Program. There is presumably some benefit to the seller in not having to fill in customs forms, but for the buyer it is a disaster. A theoretical benefit is in providing a customs brokerage service, but I live in the US, where the customs people are not nearly as rapacious as they are in most countries (Sorry UK), and will almost never assign import duties to non-commercial international post. Cost is greatly increased, and delivery delayed by several days by eBay's transshipping points.

I recently bought two coins from sellers in the UK. The coins each cost about £6. One was sent by normal post at a cost of about £3.50, the second by the GSP, for £12.45. The one sent by normal post arrived two days earlier.

I have come to the point of never buying anything using this system.

Cheers,
Dez

 

[GarageBoy]

I have to be honest, I am 100% done selling cameras on ebay. After my last sale, the seller complained to me that the camera was "dusty", and they claimed it was because I used shredded paper as packing filler, and they wanted me to pay for the camera (which they paid $80 for) to have a CLA. I declined, and they left me negative feedback.

There's nothing I can do really except report the buyer to ebay for inappropriate feedback (or for requesting additional services, I guess?).

The topping is, I found out the seller is in Hong Kong (of course 9__ 9) but has a U.S. address. So despite not shipping to international buyers, and opting out of the mess of ebay's shipping program, somebody will find a way to screw it all up.

And it's only camera sales. I sell lots of different stuff on ebay, but camera buyers, particularly those overseas ALWAYS invent something to complain about. And it never happens with any other items. Unspecified "dust" seems to be a particularly common complaint. Sometimes it a lie, sometimes it's they just didn't read the description, I've had a few cameras which I plainly described as "dusty" provoke messages from their new owners, about how the camera is "dusty", as if this is somehow a surprise.

Yup, and it's only vintage pieces... The sheer amount of BS I've heard is insane... Always a Chinese/Hong Kong buyer too (my dad was born there, and he warned me right away about selling stuff to HK - his friends have stories about selling perfect, tested NOS vacuum tubes that buyers managed to find something to complain about)

 

[Beemermark]

I'm curious how limiting sales to your own country eliminates this potential scenario?

Agree on this one. I've been selling in ebay since it started. Screwed once by a seller 20 years ago. Screwed by sellers in the US? can't count the times.

I only put it on eBay only when I try selling here with no results.

 

[kiss-o-matic]

Buying and selling vintage goods by the owner, to a large market, was hardly possible before Ebay and Paypal, especially moderately priced items.
Before Ebay you either dealt with dealers, or went to flea markets & boot sales.

Usenet groups!!!!

 

[frank-grumman]

I'm a long-time member of another site, going on 10 years now. It's only now and again that we get some schmuck to show up trying to scam someone. Moderator/owner of the site has allowed his membership to be self-policing... and by gosh, we do. Vigilantism? Don't know what that is, but I can say that we do a helluva lot of in-the-clear vetting. Call it "due diligence," and we'll "out" a scammer in a heart beat. We jump all over the NOOBS who show up w/ zero credibility wanting to buy or sell, doesn't matter. we've got a pretty neat algorithm or three the use of which gets rid of a whole bunch of those potential ripper-offer's. eBay? LOL LOL LOL 😀 😀 😀 😀

 

[Peter Jennings]

Set your eBay seller preferences to block bidders with low or no feedback, and also block bidders from countries you don't want to ship to.