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ray_g
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I seem to remember some members using this scanner. Are you happy with it? Any need to buy an aftermarket neg holder? I'd appreciate any samples or links to photos in your galleries.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Epson 3170 sample scans?
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ray_g
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Thanks, Gman. Pretty nice, but what the heck is that last one?
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cabbage . . .
taffer
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Ray, ALL my film shots are scanned with it, my opinion so far is that it's a great value for the money. For the screen it does a fairly good job with 35mm, better with MF. For printing (I've only printed 35mm so far) it may be a bit on the soft side.
One last thing, be sure that your 35mm film strips are as flat as possible, it makes a difference.
I was also surprised when I scanned a (chemical) print in flatbed mode, came out great.
One last thing, be sure that your 35mm film strips are as flat as possible, it makes a difference.
I was also surprised when I scanned a (chemical) print in flatbed mode, came out great.
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Richard Black
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G'man,
What happened to your avatar? I missed the doe-eyed dogs, kinda gave me a good feelin'. This ones pretty but doesn't have the sentiment. Dogs give unconditional love. OT, I have the 3170 and am quite pleased too. As the learning curve improved so did my scans. I have some 120 that have been enlarged to 10x10 with stunning results. Keep learning!
What happened to your avatar? I missed the doe-eyed dogs, kinda gave me a good feelin'. This ones pretty but doesn't have the sentiment. Dogs give unconditional love. OT, I have the 3170 and am quite pleased too. As the learning curve improved so did my scans. I have some 120 that have been enlarged to 10x10 with stunning results. Keep learning!
taffer
void
> I'll return the Greyhound avatar.
Thought folks were bored with it.
Never.
It gives me as many good vibs as that small orange head peeking in (Francisco's) or Gene's napper one
Thought folks were bored with it.
Never.
It gives me as many good vibs as that small orange head peeking in (Francisco's) or Gene's napper one
Ray, all of my shots have been scanned on an Epson 3200 which I believe is the same as the 3170 but with different software.
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ray_g
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greyhoundman said:That is a pic of a raddiccio. Reminds me of a 60's poster.
What were you smoking in the 60's?
Thanks guys. I have a KM SDIV which I use for 35mm. I was looking for something for MF scans. For $79 including s/h for a refurb from Epson, this looks like a very reasonable option.
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Richard Black
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G'man,
Didn't mean to sound harsh or complaining but thanks! Something reassuring in those brown eyes.
Didn't mean to sound harsh or complaining but thanks! Something reassuring in those brown eyes.
sooner
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Hi Guys. This may be off-topic, but I have an older Epson flatbed too that gives me rather soft scans and pretty bad grain. You all keep talking about "tweaking" the scanner. What does that mean? I scan at 2400 dpi on 16-bit grayscale for my b&w negs. What else can I do to sharpen scans and reduce grain? If this needs a new thread, please let me know.
jtzordon
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I've used the 3170 for 35mm and had satisfactory prints to 5x7. I haven't liked 8x10s. Of course, this was all until the motor broke a month or so ago. Now I have to pay for scans.
Oh, after market neg holder, yes I bought one for Medium format film, with the anti-newtonian ring glass. Film flatness is an issue with 120/220 stock.
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Richard Black
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3170 Negative Scan
3170 Negative Scan
I am attaching a scan of a Agfa B&W asa25 negative on a 3170 with the included negative holder. I did some adjusting using the histogram before scanning and little if nothing post scan. I saved the original in a TIFF mode and had a 10x10 print, I like square, made a photo shop in town. A lot of people have given high praise to it.
3170 Negative Scan
I am attaching a scan of a Agfa B&W asa25 negative on a 3170 with the included negative holder. I did some adjusting using the histogram before scanning and little if nothing post scan. I saved the original in a TIFF mode and had a 10x10 print, I like square, made a photo shop in town. A lot of people have given high praise to it.
smudwhisk
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greyhoundman said:
What software are you using for scanning? I've the 3170 and have used the epson twain driver through photoshop - it's great for normal scanning but I've not managed to get it to scan in correctly off 35mm negatives. They just come out all wierd and poor imagery. What am I doing wrong? Having now got into medium format, I need to get the scanner working properly. :bang:
I do have a Nikon Coolscan III but it's not too brilliant on Windows 2000 with the nikon software (not designed for that version of windows) but I've managed to get some quite good scans from it. Been meaning to trial vuescan with it.
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Richard Black
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Here is a scan made today from a TriX negative on the 3170. The TIFF file from which this was modified is 2.22 mb. I hope this comes over as nice as it seems.
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ray_g
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Very nice photo, Richard. Was this with the Moskva?
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Richard Black
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No, Ray g, that was taken with my Bessa R with a Color Skopar 28 on TriX. I was surprised too.
Kragmeister
Greg Urban
Epson 3170 + Vuescan rules!
Epson 3170 + Vuescan rules!
Greetings,
For several months I've been using an Epson 3170 with the Epson scanning software and have been a bit dissapointed with the results from negs. The last straw was attempting to scan 6x6 Ilford HP5 negs. I could see all sorts of detail in the highlights and shadows with a loupe but could not get a decent scan.
I downloaded, then bought Vuescan. WOW! It took some time but I was finally able to get a good scan, though I think I may also need to invest in one of the Doug Fisher film holders to see if I can get more sharpness.
Anyway, learning to use Vuescan is starting to pay off even though I know I have some way to go with it.. I'm not sure how "good" this photo is, but I like it.
Attached it a web sized full image at 150 dpi and a couple of 100% crops at 300 DPI from the 60 MB JPEG file that I made at 13,200 x 13,200 from the 500 MB TIFF file I plan to print from. My plan is to have it printed 10 x 10". I originally scanned at 1600 DPI and worked with a duplicate layer and high pass filter in Photoshop.
FWIW I shot this with a Rolleiflex Automat on a tripod on 15 year old HP5 from the freezer and used Rodinal 1:50 at 20c for 13 minutes to develop in my kitchen. Sorry, no RF content in this one.
Later,
Greg
Epson 3170 + Vuescan rules!
Greetings,
For several months I've been using an Epson 3170 with the Epson scanning software and have been a bit dissapointed with the results from negs. The last straw was attempting to scan 6x6 Ilford HP5 negs. I could see all sorts of detail in the highlights and shadows with a loupe but could not get a decent scan.
I downloaded, then bought Vuescan. WOW! It took some time but I was finally able to get a good scan, though I think I may also need to invest in one of the Doug Fisher film holders to see if I can get more sharpness.
Anyway, learning to use Vuescan is starting to pay off even though I know I have some way to go with it.. I'm not sure how "good" this photo is, but I like it.
Attached it a web sized full image at 150 dpi and a couple of 100% crops at 300 DPI from the 60 MB JPEG file that I made at 13,200 x 13,200 from the 500 MB TIFF file I plan to print from. My plan is to have it printed 10 x 10". I originally scanned at 1600 DPI and worked with a duplicate layer and high pass filter in Photoshop.
FWIW I shot this with a Rolleiflex Automat on a tripod on 15 year old HP5 from the freezer and used Rodinal 1:50 at 20c for 13 minutes to develop in my kitchen. Sorry, no RF content in this one.
Later,
Greg
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Gray Fox
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3170 Scanner
3170 Scanner
Last night my wife was going through her late father's WWII stuff and found a 6x9 B&W neg of unknown origin, just the thing to try on my 3170's 6x9 film holder. It was scratched a bit, but I clicked the scratch removal box in the professional scan screen, and it came out very nice. I imported it directly into CS2 as a 16 bit file of about 74 meg, did a little levels work, used the healing brush in about ten areas, and could print a nice 12x18 of it with just a bit of unsharp masking. Whoever took the shot with some then-new folder took a great shot of a 19-year-old MP and his buddy in the Phillipines in '45. It's a photo the family has never seen--but they will now! Even with my new dual processor PC with 2 gig of ram it took about 10 minutes for the 3170 to scan the neg. After 60 years, though, what's 10 minutes.
My wife found a small trove of negs from right after the war ended in the Phillipines and I'm trying to get them flattened so I can scan and print some more lost history. Do any of you know if it would help to soak the negs in filtered water and then try to dry them flat?
3170 Scanner
Last night my wife was going through her late father's WWII stuff and found a 6x9 B&W neg of unknown origin, just the thing to try on my 3170's 6x9 film holder. It was scratched a bit, but I clicked the scratch removal box in the professional scan screen, and it came out very nice. I imported it directly into CS2 as a 16 bit file of about 74 meg, did a little levels work, used the healing brush in about ten areas, and could print a nice 12x18 of it with just a bit of unsharp masking. Whoever took the shot with some then-new folder took a great shot of a 19-year-old MP and his buddy in the Phillipines in '45. It's a photo the family has never seen--but they will now! Even with my new dual processor PC with 2 gig of ram it took about 10 minutes for the 3170 to scan the neg. After 60 years, though, what's 10 minutes.
My wife found a small trove of negs from right after the war ended in the Phillipines and I'm trying to get them flattened so I can scan and print some more lost history. Do any of you know if it would help to soak the negs in filtered water and then try to dry them flat?
xvvvz
Established
>>It was scratched a bit, but I clicked the scratch removal box in the professional scan screen<<
I would encourage you to experiment by turning the scratch removal off and make a comparison scan. Since the 3170 doesn't have hardware-based dust and scratch removal, most people find it often softens the image too much overall. In my experience, the time saved in not worth the sharpness lost so I would do the dust and scratch corrections manually. This may not be true for you but you might want to make a comparison just to be sure.
Doug
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www.betterscanning.com
I would encourage you to experiment by turning the scratch removal off and make a comparison scan. Since the 3170 doesn't have hardware-based dust and scratch removal, most people find it often softens the image too much overall. In my experience, the time saved in not worth the sharpness lost so I would do the dust and scratch corrections manually. This may not be true for you but you might want to make a comparison just to be sure.
Doug
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www.betterscanning.com