Pherdinand
the snow must go on
"A semi-famous photographer said he could not take photos in a certain event because there were 30 to 40 'amateurs' (and he used that word) in front and blocked his shots...
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This was the original post, not much info.
The rest of the post is the expression of the oppinion of GSNFan, nothing else.
Based on this, you cannot decide whether:
- this was an organized event with strict rules on photography or a car accident or an appearance of the Holy Spirit
-the "semi-famous" photographer was a "pro" indeed, i.e. making $ of his images, or just a guy who thinks too much of himself and happens to have fans
- whether he was HIRED for THAT JOB or just wanted to make "art" and hope for the best
- whether the "30 or 40 amateurs" were people who bought ticket to see something, or just happened to be there
- whether it was allowed at all to take pics by non-PJ people
- whether there was a reserved place for the PJs or the person in question had to find/fight for/ his own spot
AND, most importantly, we cannot (I cannot...) filter out, why the word "amateur" ticked the original poster off so much. Nothing's wrong with the word amateur and using the word amateur, UNLESS, it is used in a derogatory or inappropriate context. Like. e.g., all amateur photographers are talentless whinees with too much money.
Disclaimer: I am an amateur, i love to take shots at concerts or such, and i hate when they forbid it.
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This was the original post, not much info.
The rest of the post is the expression of the oppinion of GSNFan, nothing else.
Based on this, you cannot decide whether:
- this was an organized event with strict rules on photography or a car accident or an appearance of the Holy Spirit
-the "semi-famous" photographer was a "pro" indeed, i.e. making $ of his images, or just a guy who thinks too much of himself and happens to have fans
- whether he was HIRED for THAT JOB or just wanted to make "art" and hope for the best
- whether the "30 or 40 amateurs" were people who bought ticket to see something, or just happened to be there
- whether it was allowed at all to take pics by non-PJ people
- whether there was a reserved place for the PJs or the person in question had to find/fight for/ his own spot
AND, most importantly, we cannot (I cannot...) filter out, why the word "amateur" ticked the original poster off so much. Nothing's wrong with the word amateur and using the word amateur, UNLESS, it is used in a derogatory or inappropriate context. Like. e.g., all amateur photographers are talentless whinees with too much money.
Disclaimer: I am an amateur, i love to take shots at concerts or such, and i hate when they forbid it.
Sparrow
Veteran
I've no wish to take the same photos 30-40 other people are taking, I'd photograph the fight with the pro ... or find a better photo from a different vantage point
Necessity is, after all, the mother of invention, no?
Necessity is, after all, the mother of invention, no?
I can understand both sides. If I was a pro, I'd be pissed... because I'm just trying to get my job done. However, as an amateur, if I want the photo bad enough, nothing will stop me... outside of the law and designated areas I'm not allowed in. Most of the time in a crowd, I have no clue who is pro and who is not. Luckily, this isn't my type of photography.... so I don't have those issues.
Jack Conrad
Well-known
Think of amateur hobbyists as being like pigeons.
If professional photogs can't figure out how to get a shot of a wonderful event because of some pigeons, then they simply aren't performing the job they were being paid to do in the first place.
In other words, a professional photographer whining about the environment doesn't strike me as very professional at all.
If professional photogs can't figure out how to get a shot of a wonderful event because of some pigeons, then they simply aren't performing the job they were being paid to do in the first place.
In other words, a professional photographer whining about the environment doesn't strike me as very professional at all.
To me, a scrum of lovely young soccer moms on the field would be far more entertaining than a shot of hairy boys in shorts running around kicking balls.A scrum of soccer moms with cameras is a scary thing indeed.
Jack Conrad
Well-known
Think of amateur hobbyists as being like pigeons.
If professional photogs can't figure out how to get a shot of a wonderful event because of some pigeons, then they simply aren't performing the job they were being paid to do in the first place.
In other words, a professional photographer whining about the environment doesn't strike me as very professional at all.
If professional photogs can't figure out how to get a shot of a wonderful event because of some pigeons, then they simply aren't performing the job they were being paid to do in the first place.
In other words, a professional photographer whining about the environment doesn't strike me as very professional at all.
To me, a scrum of lovely young soccer moms on the field would be far more entertaining than a shot of hairy boys in shorts running around kicking balls.A scrum of soccer moms with cameras is a scary thing indeed.
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
Precisely; I raised the question earlier, but it was never addressed. It's clearly biased and is being used to misrepresent the OP's opposing point of view.
btgc
Veteran
Agreed! That's why professional is hired not moms with digicams - and they can get busy with kids or shopping instead of covering event.
Haigh
Gary Haigh
I am happy to see anyone taking photos. I had it pointed out to me long ago by a pro, that cameras would be more expensive if they were only sold to an exclusive group of photographers.
excellent
Well-known
Things change and you have just have to deal with it. Some like it some hate it. Photography is exploding and to me it only means more and more interesting images and ideas.