emraphoto
Veteran
i carry an m8 and vc 40mm daily, in my pocket.
Thardy
Veteran
Did you get your M8 back?
Ororaro
Well-known
kevin m said:I'm still amazed when people claim that a Leica M will fit into their pocket.
I carry my M3+40mm summicron-C in my jacket pocket everyday.
landsknechte
Well-known
I'd imagine that the fear of dust on the sensor has driven alot of dslr users into the use of a single zoom lens that'll cover most of the bases.
kuzano
Veteran
A lot of the size is a function of the sensor size....
A lot of the size is a function of the sensor size....
Everybody who is praying for a Leica M9 with a full size sensor is going to be quite surprised when they see how big that body is going to have to be to accomodate the 35mm frame size sensor, not to mention the extra $2500 added to the price tag to pay for the large sensor. Based on current and future technology in the short term, I would peg an M9 at approximately the same size as the full frame DSLR's, but without the prism hump. A body for a full frame M9 should be list priced at about $9000. ($7500 for the camera and $1500 for the red dot.)
If you take a close look at the body and lens sizes in comparison to sensor size, there is a direct cost/size relationship that rises as the sensor size goes up. Yes, there are shirt pocket cameras that capture 10 to 12 million pixels on a sensor that is approximately 1/4 inch square (rectangle, sorry). For the most part, the photosites are so hot, that is where the noise battle takes place.
The second component of our disappointment with the size of full frame DSLRs is that we are want the manufacturers to integrate all the workings of a 35mm SLR into a body along with a computer... and a fairly powerful one at that.
One of the reasons that Olympus is doing a bang up job in providing a compact DSLR is the choice of the 4/3rds sensor size (half the size of a 35mm frame). They just announce their new pro body.. the E3 to some pretty nice reviews, and the predecessor pro body... The E1 is still commanding $400 and $500 prices for the body alone, consistently on eBay. The E1 is rankes as rendering some of the best color in digital from a 6 year old 5Mp camera with no IS, etc.
My next purchase will be an Olympus E510 10.1 Mp stabilized camera, which I should be able to buy at 6 months after it's release date for $450 to $500 new in the box.
Yes, the full frame DSLRs are big and bulky....because of the large sensor. That M9 won't please you with it's size if they do put a 24X36mm sensor in the camera at this stage of the game.
A lot of the size is a function of the sensor size....
Everybody who is praying for a Leica M9 with a full size sensor is going to be quite surprised when they see how big that body is going to have to be to accomodate the 35mm frame size sensor, not to mention the extra $2500 added to the price tag to pay for the large sensor. Based on current and future technology in the short term, I would peg an M9 at approximately the same size as the full frame DSLR's, but without the prism hump. A body for a full frame M9 should be list priced at about $9000. ($7500 for the camera and $1500 for the red dot.)
If you take a close look at the body and lens sizes in comparison to sensor size, there is a direct cost/size relationship that rises as the sensor size goes up. Yes, there are shirt pocket cameras that capture 10 to 12 million pixels on a sensor that is approximately 1/4 inch square (rectangle, sorry). For the most part, the photosites are so hot, that is where the noise battle takes place.
The second component of our disappointment with the size of full frame DSLRs is that we are want the manufacturers to integrate all the workings of a 35mm SLR into a body along with a computer... and a fairly powerful one at that.
One of the reasons that Olympus is doing a bang up job in providing a compact DSLR is the choice of the 4/3rds sensor size (half the size of a 35mm frame). They just announce their new pro body.. the E3 to some pretty nice reviews, and the predecessor pro body... The E1 is still commanding $400 and $500 prices for the body alone, consistently on eBay. The E1 is rankes as rendering some of the best color in digital from a 6 year old 5Mp camera with no IS, etc.
My next purchase will be an Olympus E510 10.1 Mp stabilized camera, which I should be able to buy at 6 months after it's release date for $450 to $500 new in the box.
Yes, the full frame DSLRs are big and bulky....because of the large sensor. That M9 won't please you with it's size if they do put a 24X36mm sensor in the camera at this stage of the game.
Chris101
summicronia
Hi Ruben,
I also hang out on a couple other equipment oriented boards (NC, NG, DPR for example.) While there is some affection given to small cameras and small lenses, a large DSLR equipped with a fast wide-to-tele 'walk around lens' seems to be the grail. Add to that, a bag containing an average of two additional lenses is often also carried, the 'camera kit' of the amateur photographer is huge!
I also hang out on a couple other equipment oriented boards (NC, NG, DPR for example.) While there is some affection given to small cameras and small lenses, a large DSLR equipped with a fast wide-to-tele 'walk around lens' seems to be the grail. Add to that, a bag containing an average of two additional lenses is often also carried, the 'camera kit' of the amateur photographer is huge!