Film and Cows

[Roger Hicks]

. . . This thread has been totally hijacked from its original purpose which was to express amazement and enjoyment . . .

Have you read post 14 to the end?

Cheers,

R.

 

[Rodchenko]

The difference is nobody made any claims in this thread that warranted your initial response

This thread has been totally hijacked from its original purpose which was to express amazement and enjoyment

Moderators , feel free to lock this one

Sad, but probably the best thing to do after such a derail.

 

[marcr1230]

The thread went off the rails before that Roger

Have you read post 14 to the end?

Cheers,

R.

 

[Sejanus.Aelianus]

The thread went off the rails before that Roger

I apologise for my part in that.

I don't think I see film production as alchemy. It's definitely chemistry and, even today, quite interesting chemistry. I also think that there are possibilities, suggested by Polaroid film and the Impossible Project, which may still come back to surprise us. Think along the lines of APS, the Polaroid 35mm film and a built in digital camera. You could get to have your "analogue" image and still eat your digital cake.

Whether there would be a sufficiently large market to pay for such developments (sorry) is another matter of course. 😉

 

[Takkun]

I'm a non-evangelical vegan and definitely think this thread went off the cliff with the sort of abrasive comments usually saved for, say, Mac vs Windows (or Canon vs Nikon 😉 ) not all of us are sign waving PETA protesters. Can we not talk about diets, unless it's about fine wine or scotch?


That said, I never really gave it much thought that the gelatin in film is from cows, even though I know Jell-o is. Just adds to that mystique and romance of the process. Even one of my professors is amazed I do my own processing, though his amazement might be that I put up with developing in my bathroom instead of the university's lab.

 

[JPSuisse]

Well, vegans are usually pretty blown in the head, if they had control, the world would grind to a halt in a week.

It's not like the film industry has its own slaughterhouses or crops of life-stock to make gelatine, it simply utilize the byproducts from the meat-industry, which is a good way to be eco-friendly, as long as people eat meat.

There are also claims that the gelatine is made from whale-meat, which is pure bullcrap, but it just shows how big lies vegans like to make, to save their pretty little animals.

Gladly, a vegan would not last more than 2 weeks, tops, in the wild. This is a simple way to prove that the whole fundamental ideology of theirs, is as close to bull**** that you can possibly get.

There are so many things wrong with the modern diet that I am utterly unimpressed about people railing against vegans. Their diet is no more screwed up than most peoples.

Your comment just belies utter ignorance about what WE ARE ALL eating. The main problem with the comment is that you think you know something about the topic in general when you obviously don't.

By the way, I'm an ominvore. So, don't even think I'm some blown in the head liberal, or whatever you want to call it. Nutrition is far more complicated than even most trained nutritionists realize.

 

[thegman]

Compared to what they claim I and other meat-eaters deserve for eating meat (experience an imminent and miserable death), I'd say it's actually quite calm and collected. :angel:

They?

I try to refrain from insulting people on the internet, but comments like this make it very difficult. Suffice to say that I think your comment is something of a generalisation and without any merit.

I'm not a Vegan or Vegetarian, in fact I could probably be more accurately be called a Meatarian, but I only have respect for those that are. It shows a level of principle against cruelty to animals which I'd like to have, but don't possess.

You might get Vegans who rant at others, but so far the only ranting we've had is from meat eaters.

 

[michaelwj]

On topic, Fascinating. More fascinating for me is colour negative, and then slide film (in that order).

But, back on the other topic, meat is just a by product of the shoe industry...It'd all go to waste if no one ate it!
We have a long running joke in our family, my dad once claimed he was 'practically vegetarian', I don't think he's gone a day in his life without eating meat. He was at the bbq with bacon in the tongs at the time, and was serious - he was talking to a vegan business colleague, trying to show his understanding of the subject.

Michael

 

[kiss-o-matic]

Had a girlfriend once who wouldn't do film photography (and therefore only digital) because the gelatin in film was from animals -- relationship didn't last long 😛

I actually don't eat meat. Guess I forgot there was animal parts in there. :-/

 

[MrFujicaman]

Tiresome post, because I really can't stand Vegans..? Get over yourself.

I've seen the claim popping up on discussion-forums now and then, usually as part of an anti-whaling Japanese/Fuji slander operation.
- For the record, Fuji does _not_ use any whaling products in their film.



Wrong. If you followed Discovery's series about putting the modern man into the wild and let them hunt/live/eat like prehistoric man, they ended up CARRYING OUT the only participant that was Vegan. The reason was, that she didn't have a clue on how to get enough foods in her, the right foods and her morals crashed from the get-go. Why?
Because when everyone else went into ketosis (fat-burning) because of hunger, she didn't have any fat to burn, so she crashed, "got sick" and cried and whined for 5 more days before she was carried out by the film-crew.

- An evolutionary dead end, literally.
Eat both meat and greens and be happy.

Should cooked her and eaten her....